Re: BRMS - full save with least amount of restricted time

Doh! (slapping forehead) You're doing it with a single control group. I
was thinking 2 separate control groups with the first restricted.

All I have to do in that CL is start the controlling subsystem, right? Do
you put a delay in that CL to give it some time after the STRSBS is run?
I've still got my "restore system to normal state" program from years ago
when I didn't have BRMS and that's what I did.



On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Jim Oberholtzer <
midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

The control group calls the CLP program via *EXITs. Now just start the
console monitor, submit the BRMS job to *CONSOLE and stand back.

Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects


On 1/10/2013 1:57 PM, Jeff Crosby wrote:

Thanks, Jim.

How do you do that with a CL program, when restricted state gets

involved?

What I mean is this. We have the Advanced Job Scheduler, which is used

to

do the restricted state backups. The AJS job command is:

STRBKUBRM CTLGRP(FULLWTHSYS) SBMJOB(*CONSOLE)

Are you saying you replaced that with CALL MYCLPGM and it did it all? As
in that CL program has 2 STRBKUBRM commands in it? That can't be, I

don't

think, because restricted state will kill your CL program. And you're

much

smarter than that so I'm obviously not understanding something.:)






On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Jim Oberholtzer<
midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Jeff,

The main concern with save while active on an *ALLUSR is when you use
any synch point except *LIB. *SYNCLIB and *SYSDFN may take a LONG

time

to reach a synchronization point with all of the libraries on the

system.

If you use *LIB as the save while active synchronization point you
should not have any issues, I do it all the time.

I also use the technique you mention with two control groups, one for
restricted state for what ever is needed there, then bring the system
back up for use and start a save while active on the other libraries.

I use a control language program to do it so I can manage the shut

down

and start up properly.

Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects


On 1/10/2013 1:13 PM, Jeff Crosby wrote:
<snip>

> I read in "Backup Recovery and Media Services
> for OS/400: A Practical Approach" (PDF available here:
> http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg244840.html) that save

while

active

> is strongly discouraged with *ALLUSR. The last update to this

redbook

was

> 2003, so I'm wondering if that's changed. Anyone doing *ALLUSR

save

while

> active?
>
> Another thought I had was to put the *SAVSYS in one control group
> (restricted state), everything else in another control group (not
> restricted), and run them back to back. This might be trickier,

though,

as

> the first control group has to finish before the next one

starts. I

don't

> know if BRMS has that built in or not. Just thought of that

idea while

> writing. Also, since I want everything on a single tape, I need

to make

> sure the 2nd control group doesn't clear the tape.
>
> Suggestions welcome.

</snip>
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