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That's good to hear, Larry. I should clarify that when I referred to footprint, I didn't mean in terms of number of units - in this virtualization world, that's meaningless; I meant instead number of businesses on the platform - or that use it in some way.

Glad to hear about the move from Intel, but at the same time, I wonder how those Power systems are used, and on which O/S. Just a curiosity for me; I am sure it is a number I'll never see.

Thanks for the _sane_ response! I truly appreciate that!
++
Dennis
++
"The best way to get on in the world is to make people believe it's to their advantage to help you."
-- Jean de La Bruyre



Sent from my Galaxy tablet phone. Please excuse my brevity.
For any grammatic/spelling errors, there is no excuse.
++


"Ketzes, Larry" <Larry.Ketzes@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Dennis,
I'm sorry to hear about another company leaving the i. However, I am
aware of companies that have left the Intel world for core applications
and migrated to the I or Power platform. Dr. Soltis told a great story
about Google UK ditching hundreds of Intel servers for 1 i. Steve Will
also mentioned many companies in his presentation last week at DVCUG
that have migrated 'to' the Power platform from the Intel world.
Not sure how many are doing this, don't want to sound like I have rose
colored glasses or anything, but there are several ways to look at
this.
The footprint may be diminishing if you look only at pieces of
hardware. But that does not necessarily mean the presence is any less
intense. My old company had over 1,800 little AS/400 systems all over
the country, and they now only have 2 or 3 large ones. Does that mean
our OS lost all of that. Of course not, but consolidation skews the
numbers. They are no less dedicated to the platform than 10 years ago.
My current company will be consolidating over 50 iSeries systems into
4 Power systems. No less dedicated to the platform though, but the
numbers go down.

Thanks, Larry

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dennis Lovelady
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 6:48 AM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: Power: Was: Classes for IBMi/iSeries?

My, such language.

My current job is to eliminate three more System i units from the face
of
the earth, and one more significant company irrevocably off of the i
platform. And guess who's driving the bulk of the migration? Hint, it
isn't my old partner-in-crime, Accenture, who have a whole set of
methodologies for that effort.) No, it is our good friend IBM, whose
concern for the platform would seem dubious at best. One could argue
the
same of me in this situation, I suppose. (Gasp! A traitor in the
midst!) So
be it; doesn't make the point any less valid.

Of course, IBM won't announce numbers, but from my observations, the i
(referring to the OS and family here) footprint is fading, and has been
for
many, many years. (How many here have been involved in the migration
*to*
the i platform? Personally, I've never heard of even one....) And
that's a
shame; I hope my observation is incorrect.

Dennis Lovelady
http://www.linkedin.com/in/dennislovelady
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-- headline from the Orlando (Florida) Sentinel



BULLSHIT.

Pure bullshit.

Power is the hardware. I wish I could share with everyone how much
revenue
that IBM I contributes to Power. Suffice it to say, IBM i is adding
money
not
just to Power, but to the entire IBM corporation. IBM I has been
extremely
profitable, and the revenue generated from IBM I is noticed within
the
entire
Power organization, if not the entire IBM organization. For those of
us
who
run IBM I, there are future plans going out many many years (sorry, I
can't
get into details), do not believe the FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, and
Doubt)
that
AIX is the only operating system that IBM cares about (or that the
Power
people care about). Is AIX important to IBM, you bet it is. Is IBM I
important to IBM, you bet it is. If IBM I wasn't in the picture, the
Earning
per Share of IBM stock would be affected.

It annoys me to no end when people try to spread the FUD around, that
IBM
only
cares about AIX. Yes, IBM has screwed up the marketing of the naming
of
IBM I
(the old OS/400), but you can cry about it just like you can cry
about the
new
layout of Facebook.

For those people who have nothing good to say about IBM I, I say
leave the
platform and see if you can find something 1/2 as good. For those
remaining,
this is your community. This is your livelihood. Make constructive
criticism.
Don't argue about what could have been, should have been, and names.
If
you
want something there are avenues to get enhancements, new features,
etc.
I
know the COMMON CAAC & the Large User Group have put forth quite a
lot of
requirements for i5/OS at the time, and something like over 65% have
made
it
into IBM i. This is due to the fact that Steve Will and his team are
listening and working with our community. They have done a great
job
determining which features and functions provide the most value, and
putting
those into the various releases. Do we get everything, no, but we
sure
got
some great stuff in these last few releases.

If I have hurt anyone's feelings, that wasn't the intension. Don, you
were
the
straw that broke the camel's back. If all we concentrate on is the
negative,
then when people outside of IBM I Google on these discussions, they
are
going
to feel and believe that the machine is not moving forward, when that
isn't
the case. Promote the platform that you work on, tell others how
good the
machine is, don't just tell each other on this list, go out and tell
people
about Watson, and that is the same platform that you run your
business on.
Is
it the same OS, NO, but it is the exact same Power platform.

Pete

--
Pete Massiello
iTech Solutions
www.itechsol.com




-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Don
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 2:22 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: Classes for IBMi/iSeries?



Dennis,

The things that you're as WELL AWARE of as many of the rest of us
include:

1. This o/s is known (thanks to IBM ineptness) by many names, and
these
names
are ACCEPTED BY INDUSTRY when talking about the broad category of
systems
that
run OS/400, uh, I mean i/os, un, I mean..... All of us (with one or
2
exceptions) generally seem to understand what the others are talking
about.

2. Also as I believe you're well aware of, when IBM says "POWER"
they're
specifically referring and wanting you to be running AIX. To IBM,
os/400(or
whatever) is and has been just another add on legacy (THEIR TERMS)
o/s.

Keep in mind that AIX, is just another mutation of UNIX - BOTH
operating
environments which have been around for as long or longer than CPF or
OS/400
- yet for some reason IBM hasn't decided to morph their names along
with
the
seasons... Ever wonder why?

OK, back to our naps...I'm sure trevor will have some retort but I'm
sure
my
spam filter is still working... :)



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