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There are still those problems, but IBM has been very intelligent in its
processes. For instance, the latest V6R1 Cumulative has a PTF for the Link
loader, but the PTF process knows this is a special PTF, and as soon as it
is installed the PTF process must flag it as such. Then after you have
loaded the PTFs, it states there is a PTF that requires special processing
(i.e. the link loader PTF), and MUST BE INSTALLED FIRST. On the next IPL,
it installs this PTF and ONLY this PTF, and then you have to go back into
the PTF process and apply the rest (or set to apply the rest) of the PTFs.

Long and short, it requires a double IPL, but if you know that is the case
before hand it isn't a problem. Since we are always bringing our customers
up to date with PTFs we are aware of this. For the average guy/girl on the
street who does PTF's twice a year, they wouldn't know this.

My recommendation, and that what we do for our customers is either quarterly
PTFs or semi-annual PTFs. We apply the latest cumulative, and all the major
groups (Hipers, DB2, Security, Java, TCP/IP, Backup/Recovery, Print, HTTP,
and ECS groups).

Pete

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-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Vern Hamberg
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 8:32 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Cume PTF

I don't think you get multiple entries - that'd be silly if IBM did it
that way.

Last time I got a link loader error was when trying to get caught up on
a v5r1 machine - I mean REALLY caught up. There were tons of PTFs, and
the link loader process couldn't handle the quantity, as Larry
described. Now I keep more current than I did.

Vern

Doesn't the cume overlap (somewhat) with the all the rest? So are
you really quintuppling the number of PTFs?

--Paul E Musselman
PaulMmn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


At 8:46 PM -0400 10/21/10, DrFranken wrote (in part):
I last tested this with V5R4M0 base load and then applying every
PTF group I had available including CUME, DB, HIPER, HTTP, JAVA, Windows
Integration, TCP, PRINT, Websphere and probably more. It did not break.


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