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My biggest issue with the third-party timeshare systems is that they are rarely on the most current release. This might not be an issue if one is developing products for older systems, but if one is really hoping to learn some of the bleeding edge technologies, third-party hosts may not be viable...

Leasing a system would be overkill for a developer looking to sharpen skills.

Eric

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Aaron Bartell
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 4:43 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: Are there any System i sites on the Internet that offer
accounts?


After reviewing the pricing I wanted to throw in the fact that you can lease
an entry level 520 (or 515 now) for around $130/month. That may not be
feasible for a developer, but if you are going to upgrade to the biggest
personal account timeshare400.com has then it starts to look more appealing.

HTH,
Aaron Bartell
http://mowyourlawn.com

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[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rex Capio
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 4:25 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: Are there any System i sites on the Internet that offer
accounts?

http://www.timeshare400.com/Individuals.htm

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[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 5:12 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: Are there any System i sites on the Internet that offer
accounts?

Aaron - it'd be great if this were generally available. But the main page
for the program still has this statement:

IBM offers this feature-rich program at no cost to all active members of the
IBM PartnerWorldR program

Have you seen a different announcement or the same service through another
site?

This site was www.ibm.com/systems/vlp

Regards
Vern

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Aaron Bartell" <albartell@xxxxxxxxx>

They do.

Do a google search on IBM Virtual Loaner Program. It started out being
only
for vendors and the like, but now I think it has opened up some more. Note

it isn't for long term but instead for short stints where you need to test

your product on a different OS or configuration.

NOTE: Make sure to read the agreement they prompt you with while signing
up.

HTH,
Aaron Bartell
http://mowyourlawn.com

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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of DeLong, Eric
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 9:46 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: Are there any System i sites on the Internet that offer
accounts?

IMO, this is something IBM should offer to developers. Provide host access

to a development server (managed by IBM) with access to all developer
tools
(based on subscription) and technical support to developers trying to
learn
new technologies. IBM has done very little to stimulate the development of

new programmers on this platform. Access to systems for "play time" is
restricted by many employers (rightfully so, for production servers)...

Eric

-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Booth Martin
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 1:14 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Are there any System i sites on the Internet that offer
accounts?


Are there any System i sites on the Internet that offer accounts for
programmers to develop stuff?

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Booth Martin
http://www.Martinvt.com
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