Re: MS's outstanding programmers - was: MC RPG Developer

Even if it is a matter of interpretation (and it is nice that you clarified
Steve's ramblings, even if no one else read it like that) my point is still
that it is about the programmer, not the tool.

When Steve rails on how horrible he thinks the System i is, I read his posts
as saying he is incapable of delivering a decent system, so he blames the
tools. Of course, that is simply my interpretation...



On 1/2/08 11:36 AM, "Wilt, Charles" <WiltC@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Not necessarily.....

I read Steve's post as saying that he finds Microsoft's development products
great, but the
non-development products leave something to be desired.

In other words, as a developer using Visual Studio, he likes the product.

As a user of Outlook, Word, ect... he's not impressed.

Charles

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Subject: MS's outstanding programmers - was: MC RPG Developer

Haven't you just identified the problem?

Programmers are between the user and the tool, so if it does not work for
the user, how can you claim that it is outstanding for "the programmer"?

While a tool may be "outstanding", isn't the measure of the tool in the
end-applications created by "the programmer" using the tool?

Welcome back to System i...