RE: New redpaper: i5/OS Program Conversion: Getting readyfor i5/OSV6R1

Oh yes... I certainly do. You'd be surprised how many on V4xx I sell too.
I know I am. :)

I would guess at least 20-30% are pre V5, another 30-40 are V5R1/2 and the
rest maybe V5R3/4. I would be willing to bet other ISVs that do support
lower OS versions would have similar numbers. Of course, if you only
support V5R1 and up, you probably won't have many V4 customers.

It was actually just earlier this year I bumped from V3R2 to V4R5. Only had
a couple issues (V4R2 that I just gave them old versions of my software, and
when they upgrade OS they can upgrade my software). So I may have beena
little over catious.

But, as you said, they probably don't want to spend 10k on the software so
they get it from me for a couple hundred. :)

This, my friends, is the reason when I write articles, books, etc, my code
is not free-format yet. lol! Everything I do is still fixed.

Bradley V. Stone
BVSTools - www.bvstools.com
eRPG SDK - www.erpgsdk.com

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Do you really make new sales to businesses running older than V5R1?
Perhaps it is a little prejudice on my part but I often suspected that
people running older versions didn't want to put a dime into their i5 and
therefore were not inclined to purchase new software for it.

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I would be MORE than happy to support only IBM supported OS releases.. but
since I don't charge "outrageous" prices/maintenance/support (lol) I'd be
losing out on about 1/2 of my sales... Every little bit helps for me. I
personally am in no way pounding my chest bragging how far back my
software
goes. :)

I will most likely be movingn to V5R1 as a min OS very soon. If someone
needs an older version, I can give them an older version of my software.

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It is a major pain in the ...

Basically the rule is if your program has been recompiled with V5R1 or
later you shouldn't generally have any problems - observability or no.

About a year ago many ISV's were thrown into a room together and
told this
and to prepare. In general, they haven't. IBM will release PTF's that
will bring back ANZOBJCVN and STROBJCVN (if you want to spread out the
conversion time). Until these ptf's are available there are alternative
ways to generate this information. Basically you're looking for

programs

and service programs compiled prior to V5R1 with no observability.
Wrapping the right API into a UDF and bouncing that against the output
from DSPOBJD or some such thing works fine.

Some vendors that I know of that need work with their - publicly

released

- versions include:
TL Ashford
SSA's BPCS (at least the old 405CD version we use)
Seagull
Unicorn (but since they are dropping all their customers and telling

them

to go elsewhere good luck getting a refresh).
Softlanding's Turnover.

Once again, I'd rather buy software from a vendor that proudly
displays on
their website that they only support versions of OS that are currently
supported by IBM than a vendor who pounds their chest and brags
that their
software still runs on V2R1. There are vendors that DO display these
disclaimers on their website.


Rob Berendt
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This redpaper just showed up on the http://planet.midrange.com feed
today ...

Abstract: IBM® plans to deliver i5/OS® V6R1 in 2008. With this new
release, IBM will require conversion of all programs created under
previous releases that use the i5/OS Machine Interface (MI). This
conversion upgrades and refreshes programs to take advantage of the
latest system enhancements, including enhanced system integrity,
improved performance, and a range of new operating system and processor
capabilities. In order for a program to be converted, its creation data
(sometimes referred to as observability) must be available. Programs
created for V5R1 or later have their creation data automatically saved
during program creation. Clients and ISVs with programs created for
OS/400® V4R5 and earlier need to ensure that the creation data is
available for the conversion process.


http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/redp4293.html

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