Re: Diagnostic Aids -- LY44-0597

these manuals are about the guts of these machines - they should be hard to obtain...

Vernon - agreed, but a simple manual for the SST items a system manager might use needs to be somewhere. I put new "customer install" disk in a system recently, and 99.9 of what I can find is all Ops Nav stuff. This customer has a twinax console, doesn't want me plugging my pc into their network, has no Ops Nav setup. It seems IBM has buried or removed much of the SST docs.
I got my instructions off this list, not from any IBM doc (and that is not good).
jim franz
----- Original Message ----- From: "Vernon Hamberg" <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 11:25 PM
Subject: RE: Diagnostic Aids -- LY44-0597

Sharon - I did not go far enough at the publications site - Mark had
the more current reference for RISC boxes of relatively recent
vintage - these things do not change a lot over time.

The newer set costs less - $280 comes to mind from Mark's post. But I
don't see a problem here - these are very specialized, as someone
else pointed out. They might be some of the last manuals not
downloadable - and I think they should stay hard to get - do you
really want anyone to know how to use the advanced techniques
available in option 4 of SST? Zounds - it is already bad enough that
one can modify any address in memory from SST - these manuals are
about the guts of these machines - they should be hard to obtain, IMO.

Their price and accessibility do not apply to anything else on this system.

JMHO
Vern

At 08:37 AM 4/2/2007, you wrote:

And yet another reason to drop the i5 (My company's opinion).
Manuals should not be that high.

Sharon


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Vernon Hamberg
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 7:54 AM
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Subject: Re: Diagnostic Aids -- LY44-0597


These are still for sale - $373 at this site:

http://www.elink.ibmlink.ibm.com/publications/servlet/pbi.wss?SSN=07DBM0038688881992&FNC=PBL&PBL=LY21-0597-02PBCEEBO200119047&TRL=TXTSRH

These are the only manuals with, I assume, full instructions on the
use of DST and SST. I don't think everything from these manuals has
shown up at InfoCenter. Here is the description from that site:

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