RE: Saving the System i: Fight Rather Than Switch

   IMO, there will always be cases where green screen will always be faster
   for quickie changes and recompiles.
   I still haven't seen WDSC run on a hand held device, but I have seen
   someone modify and recompile a program using the keyboard of a Treo.
    
   And CHAIN will always be faster than SQL for single record access.
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   Paul Nelson
   Arbor Solutions, Inc.
   708-670-6978  Cell
   pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx
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     Date: 12/15/2006 02:36PM
     Subject: RE: Saving the System i: Fight Rather Than Switch

     Just so everybody knows where I stand, I have been using WDSC since the
     4.0
     days.  I ONLY use SEU if a clients machine just won't work with WDSC.

     Note that I stated I compiled my programs by doing an F9 and ENTER
     meaning I
     typed it in on the command line and was not using PDM.

     After using WDSC for many years I have gained perspective that doesn't
     have
     candy coating on it (or at least not nearly as much).  I can leverage
     and
     justify it in my daily programming.  I know certain features that aren't
     up
     to par for quick app development, and that often times heads me back to
     the
     command line.

     I would like to know where Trevor was going with his statements because
     it
     seems he is still in the candy coated phase of thinking WDSC should ONLY
     be
     used in ALL cases.  

     Aaron Bartell

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       FWIW, Aaron, I saw Joe Pluta do a seminar on WDSC 10 days ago, and I
     am
       now convinced that WDSC is a better tool than PDM and SEU.
        
       I'm waiting for my Christmas bonus to go buy a PC with more horsepower
     to
       run WDSC.
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       Paul Nelson
       Arbor Solutions, Inc.
       708-670-6978  Cell
       pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx
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         From: "albartell" <albartell@xxxxxxxxx>
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         Date: 12/15/2006 01:49PM
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         >If you are still coding in "edit, compile, run, fail, debug, edit,
         compile,
         run, fail, debug, edit, compile" mode, then it would seem you are
     using
         WDSc
         as you did with PDM - this is not a true Integrated Development
         Environment.

         Please humor me so I can update my coding style.  How do you develop
     RPG
         programs using WDSC, Trevor?  If there are better ways to do what I
     am
         doing
         then I will happily change! Note that "better" in that previous
     sentence
         means time savings because in the end that is what I look for out of
         WDSC.
         There is enough time savings with the good things that it outweighs
     the
         bad
         things.

         Aaron Bartell
         http://mowyourlawn.com

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         [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Trevor Perry
         Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 12:33 PM
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         Subject: Re: Saving the System i: Fight Rather Than Switch

         Aaron,

         If you are still coding in "edit, compile, run, fail, debug, edit,
         compile,
         run, fail, debug, edit, compile" mode, then it would seem you are
     using
         WDSc
         as you did with PDM - this is not a true Integrated Development
         Environment.

         In that case, you ~would~ expect CTRL+S to save your member to the
         System i
         - not to the PC where you are doing the actual development work.

         Given that, I would have missed the point. WDSc is just a fancier
         version of
         PDM...

         Of course, some of us stick to the "compile, now it works"
     approach...
         :-)

         Trevor

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