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Hey Peter,

I just did a little test, changing my source to CLP, and removing the JOB
parm to the override of the file.  The program worked just great, so either
the default for the override in a CLP is JOB, or the OPM program and the FTP
run in the same activation group.  I don't know which.

Jim

On 10/5/06, Peter Dow (ML) <maillist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Jim,

Well, they're both CLP's, not CLLE's, and I don't think they're ever
called from an ILE program. but the APAR does say "...since the FTP
program runs in the activation group *NEW...".  I thought a CLP runs in
the QILE activation group, so if FTP starts a new activation group, it
seems like it would have the same override scope problem.

*Peter Dow* /
Dow Software Services, Inc.
909 793-9050
pdow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:pdow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> /


> Are the programs doing the override ILE or not - that would make the
> difference.  With ILE, you get a mix of ILE (my program) and non-ILE
(IBM's
> programming for FTP).  My program runs in one activation group, IBM's in
> another.  With ILE, if I take the default for the override, it only
> overrides at the activation group level.  I needed to override at the
JOB
> level to get IBM's programming to see my files.
>
> I am also on V5R4, and that might make some difference, although I have
had
> override issues at  5.1 and 5.2 levels.  Activation groups have not
changed
> that much from V5R1 to V5R4.
>
> Jim
>
>
>> That's odd. I have customers with V5R1 and V5R3, both using a similar
>> CLP that does the two overrides then the FTP command; neither of the
>> overrides specifies the scope, and the default on both systems is the
>> activation group, yet they've been working for years running it in
>> batch.  APAR *SE19855 indicates that it applies to V5R1, V5R2, and
V5R3,
>> and it didn't mention any PTF to change the behavior of FTP.  Why is it
>> working!?
>>
>> **Peter Dow* /
>>
>

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