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I do agree with you. I do think we need better tools for GUI. The example I have been discussing with people is the mac OSX concept - it really is Unix with a GUI. Linux has KDE and Gnome. i5/OS has WDHT - sad, really.

I did not miss your point - I was just being facetious about IBM finally having ~one~ solution in their toolset for 5250 to become GUI.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Pluta"
Subject: RE: Say Hello to IBM System i5!


You're missing my point. Even PSC/400, which because of its design has more functionality available than any other solution, really needs some creative
techniques to do simple conversions.  For example, creating a subfile with
action codes requires at the very least a way to send all the available
action codes, and this is outside the realm of the screen scraper.  This
sort of metadata needs to be sent either ahead of the screen or with the
screen. Ahead of the screen means a non-zero footprint on the client, while
sending data with the screen means somehow extending the 5250 data stream.

Yes, there are good solutions WITHIN THE CONSTRAINTS of the 5250 data
stream, but those constraints cripple all but the most advanced techniques.

And finally, even though we have engineered solutions to these problems,
we're still not the answer. We're closer than anyone else, I think, but we
still don't seamlessly integrate with the application generators and until
that happens, you won't have a truly productive legacy integration and
extension environment.

Joe


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