Re: Say Hello to IBM System i5! -- MIDRANGE-L

But the iSeries can do the nice GUI. Trevor's done that many times, andso have many others. The 5250 data stream is not an interface. Thedumb terminal (3197 etc.) is an interface.

You want GUI? Use webfacing. Or LookSoftware. Or whatever. It takesthe data stream and makes it GUI.

I'm not a Windows system designer, but my guess (and I'm sure I'll becorrected here if I'm wrong or incomplete) is that graphical interfacesaren't done via magic (though some kind of sorcery may be involved) buta mapping algorithm.


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Keith Carpenter wrote:

Yet given all that, it's the interface that leaves the biggest
impression.  5250 is killing the AS400/iSeries/i5 (and these name
changes aren't helping).


Keith



michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
And another point...if you think about improvements and changes to a
system, I don't think there's a system out there that's had more
changes than an iSeries. Using virtualization from the mainframe and
UNIX shells from UNIX and the ability to host multiple OS's (ala VM),
the iSeries has had more changes than any system I know of, except
maybe for mainframes.
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Subject: Re: Say Hello to IBM System i5!
From: Jerry Adams <jerry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, February 02, 2006 10:41 am
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
I realize that Unix is an operating system and that SQL is a language,but I recall hearing about both of those back in the 70's when I startedout.
My point being: Unix and SQL are both legacy products. Which wouldmake Oracle, SQL Server, AIX, Linux (a Unix wannabe), and their ilk alllegacy.
That is not to say that any of these have stood still; to the best of myknowledge there have been incremental improvements to each. Just asthere have been incremental improvements to the AS/400 -> iSeries -> i5.
So the next time some eunuch (pardon me, Unix) 'guru' or SQL (anyvariety) wiz kid throws the word 'legacy' into a conversation regardingthe iSeries, just look 'im in the eye and with a condescending look say,'You're sh*****g me. Right?'
And, just for the record, Bell Labs invented Unix, and IBM inventedSQL. Not Oracle, not Microsoft, not Sun. And who leads the world inpatents again? It sure ain't Oracle, or Microsoft, or any of those wizkids' favorites. I don't have any idea how many have been used in theiSeries, but certainly quite a number.
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fbocch2595@xxxxxxx wrote:
It's easy to lump all IBM machines, whether mainframe or midrange, as legacy, don't you think?
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From: Keith Carpenter <carpcon@xxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 09:21:54 -0800
Subject: Re: Say Hello to IBM System i5!



The large consulting firms who recommend new systems just call it legacy.


Jeff Crosby wrote:
Whatever the name,seems I always end up having to use "AS/400" as part of thedefinition.
Not to mention that even the Rochester IBMers refer to it as AS/400 to this
day.  They are in conversations with me this very morning.
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