RE: Compiled Programs stuck in QBATCH

I find that when QBATCH is not accepting more work, it is because
someone submitted a server or NEPS job that is holding the one activity
level for the job queue.  QBATCH should only be used for batch
processing, QPGMR should be used for program compiles, and QSERVER
should  be used for jobs that wait for work to do, (server jobs that
is.)


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-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tom Jedrzejewicz
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 3:44 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Compiled Programs stuck in QBATCH

On 12/8/05, pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx <pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Brian,
>
> You would probably be better off if you used QPGMR for your stuff.
Your
> programmers will get cranky if their compiles are held up because
QBATCH
> is busy.
> --

I would be far more concerned about cranky users when their jobs are
held up because of long compiles.  They are actually transacting
business!

That said, the compiles should absolutely be in a separate subsystem. 
That subsystem and the compile job descriptions can be tuned to find
the best balance between the programmer whining and user convenience. 
Programmers who game that system should be dealt with stermly.

How about forcing the programmers to use WDSc and reducing the number
of compiles that are required?