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I remember when installing WAS 5.1 it was recommended to install cume and groups, install WAS 5.1, and then reapply the group. Can't remember who the original poster was on the thread, but it's pretty likely that at least one or some of the PTFs involved will require an IPL. "Haase, Justin C." <justin.haase@Kin To gland.com> "Midrange Systems Technical Sent by: Discussion" midrange-l-bounce <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> s@xxxxxxxxxxxx cc Subject 10/24/2005 02:02 RE: Installing Websphere Portal -- PM IPL Required? Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@midra nge.com> Not sure if this still applies, but last I knew, the LPP (WAS 6, in this case) had to be installed before you could install PTFs to it. -- Justin C. Haase - iSeries System Administrator IBM Certified Systems Expert - eServer i5 Kingland Systems Corporation email - justin.haase@xxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Harvell, Joel Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 12:52 PM To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion Subject: RE: Installing Websphere Portal -- IPL Required? I've seen PTFs like that that require you end TCP or other subsystems. I would dare say that in our shop it's probably quicker to do an IPL than to end the subsystems and follow all of the instructions to apply the PTF "immediately"!! Joel B. Harvell Food Lion, LLC (704) 633-8250 x2709 -----Original Message----- From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of rob@xxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 12:31 PM To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion Subject: Re: Installing Websphere Portal -- IPL Required? Strictly from a ptf perspective and not a WAS perspective, I would think yes. But depending on what group ptf's. IBM has gotten better on what ptf's need an ipl. They still have a long way to go. Often it is easier to send instructions to do a GO PTF 8 and tell it to IPL than to say, not to IPL but then do a APYPTF LICPGM(*ALL) APY(*TEMP) DELAYED(*NO) and hope they all IPL. Complications from that include - You may run in to some ptf's that do require an IPL and you'll have to IPL anyway - IBM trick of not requiring an IPL, but a particular ptf may require that you end so much stuff that you might as well IPL. Recently I've seen some that either require we end TCP/IP or even bring our system into a restricted state. On our systems bringing down tcp/ip means you might as well IPL because there isn't a user here who won't notice it. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated. Rob Berendt -- Group Dekko Services, LLC Dept 01.073 PO Box 2000 Dock 108 6928N 400E Kendallville, IN 46755 http://www.dekko.com "Walden H. Leverich" <WaldenL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: midrange-l-bounces+rob=dekko.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx 10/24/2005 10:39 AM Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Fax to Subject Installing Websphere Portal -- IPL Required? I'm sitting on a conference call about installing WAS portal on an iSeries. I'm hearing that in order to install Portal we need to IPL the iSeries. Technically it's not Portal that requires the IPL, but rather the required group PTFs -- and IBM cannot supply those group PTFs ahead of time. Do others agree that you must IPL in order to install Portal? -Walden ------------ Walden H Leverich III Tech Software (516) 627-3800 x11 WaldenL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.TechSoftInc.com <blocked::http://www.techsoftinc.com/> Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur. 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