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I've seen PTFs like that that require you end TCP or other subsystems. I would dare say that in our shop it's probably quicker to do an IPL than to end the subsystems and follow all of the instructions to apply the PTF "immediately"!! Joel B. Harvell Food Lion, LLC (704) 633-8250 x2709 -----Original Message----- From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of rob@xxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 12:31 PM To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion Subject: Re: Installing Websphere Portal -- IPL Required? Strictly from a ptf perspective and not a WAS perspective, I would think yes. But depending on what group ptf's. IBM has gotten better on what ptf's need an ipl. They still have a long way to go. Often it is easier to send instructions to do a GO PTF 8 and tell it to IPL than to say, not to IPL but then do a APYPTF LICPGM(*ALL) APY(*TEMP) DELAYED(*NO) and hope they all IPL. Complications from that include - You may run in to some ptf's that do require an IPL and you'll have to IPL anyway - IBM trick of not requiring an IPL, but a particular ptf may require that you end so much stuff that you might as well IPL. Recently I've seen some that either require we end TCP/IP or even bring our system into a restricted state. On our systems bringing down tcp/ip means you might as well IPL because there isn't a user here who won't notice it. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated. Rob Berendt
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