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Dan, The keyword you're looking for is FORMAT. FORMAT([library-name/]database-file-name) Note that the record format name in the second file must be the same as the record format name in the referenced file. Relating to your first question, for the files to be considered the same format, the format names must also match. I don't know exactly how the format level ID is put together. I know that field names, sizes, attributes along with format name are used but as far as the actual calculation, I don't know that's it's published. Good luck, Charles Wilt -- iSeries Systems Administrator / Developer Mitsubishi Electric Automotive America ph: 513-573-4343 fax: 513-398-1121 -----Original Message----- From: midrange-l-bounces+cwilt=meaa.mea.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces+cwilt=meaa.mea.com@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dan Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 2:52 PM To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion Subject: Re: details on record Format Level Identifier A followup question on the original post: Is there an IBM-supported way to reference an entire record format with one statement in a PF definition so that there are no field-level definitions in the source? Something like: A R RCUWUS REFFMT(DEVLIB/FILEA RFMTNAM) would "duplicate" the RFMTNAM's fields from FILEA verbatim into this format. TIAA, Dan
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