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It was more than that. Here is what I understand to be true. Keep in mind that my focus at COMMON is speaking, so I may have misunderstood. They announced that they were raffling off a Porsche! A fair amount of advertising and marketing made sure that everybody came. I even received an invitation by Fed-Ex on the Friday prior to COMMON with a memory stick. So the whole world showed up. They had a room suitable for 50 to 100 for premium cocktails, and they had the better part of 1000 people. It was hot and ugly. Many things went off course. Their schedules went off, and they rolled over several speakers (including a BOF that I was giving). Porsche provided a video which nobody could see because the room was too cramped. Many people missed the IBM reception (which I understand was nice), due to their reception. It turned that the "raffle" was either misrepresented by them or misconstrued by me. In fact, they raffled off a chance for six people to punch in a one in 100,000 chance to win the car. In fact they never intended to buy a car. Had anyone won the car, they would have found that it was a one year lease, and had to pay tax on the car. Furthermore, they had bought insurance to pay for the expense had anyone won (like "hole-in-one insurance"); moreover the insurance agent or a company representative was present. I think that they had good intentions, but they hurt just about everybody that touched the event, including themselves. I never found out any specifics about their product announcement. Al - in Orlando P.S.: If I told my wife that I wanted to pay the better part of $10,000 in tax to have the use of a Porsche for one year......... Al Barsa, Jr. Barsa Consulting Group, LLC 400>390 "i" comes before "p", "x" and "z" e gads Our system's had more names than Elizabeth Taylor! 914-251-1234 914-251-9406 fax http://www.barsaconsulting.com http://www.taatool.com http://www.as400connection.com Ron-Zimmerman@swi ssvalley.com Sent by: To midrange-l-bounce Midrange Systems Technical s@xxxxxxxxxxxx Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc 09/22/2005 09:34 AM Subject RE: COMMON Update... - the Porsche give-away? Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@midra nge.com> They were announcing a new version of their products, but it was so crowded and noisy that I didn't get much out of the announcement. That was my main reason for going in the first place! Thank you, Ronald L. Zimmerman I.T. Applications Manager Swiss Valley Farms, Co. http://www.swissvalley.com "The Good for You Company" Email: Ron-Zimmerman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx "Gregory A. Garner" <ggarner_gds@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 09/22/2005 06:52 AM Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Subject RE: COMMON Update... - the Porsche give-away? What was the actual topic of the presentation? (For those of us who are following the Common Update stream). Gregory A. Garner Garner Data Systems, Inc 4270 Grand Teton Parkway Suwanee, GA 30024 Phone: 770 845 9636 Fax:770 614 3496 -----Original Message----- From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ron-Zimmerman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 7:48 AM To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion Subject: Re: COMMON Update... - the Porsche give-away? Al, I'm glad to hear that someone of your stature has the same opinion of this fiasco! Thank you, Ronald L. Zimmerman I.T. Applications Manager Swiss Valley Farms, Co. http://www.swissvalley.com "The Good for You Company" Email: Ron-Zimmerman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Al Barsa <barsa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 09/21/2005 09:44 PM Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Subject Re: COMMON Update... - the Porsche give-away? I think that this was a first class disaster for all: COMMON Attendees Speakers whose sessions it ruined Quadrant The room was too way small, and probably illegal. The company generally deceived us that there was a car to be won. IMHO, they did damage to their reputation. Al Al Barsa, Jr. Barsa Consulting Group, LLC 400>390 "i" comes before "p", "x" and "z" e gads Our system's had more names than Elizabeth Taylor! 914-251-1234 914-251-9406 fax http://www.barsaconsulting.com http://www.taatool.com http://www.as400connection.com Ron-Zimmerman@swi ssvalley.com Sent by: To midrange-l-bounce Midrange Systems Technical s@xxxxxxxxxxxx Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc 09/21/2005 09:21 PM Subject Re: COMMON Update... - the Porsche give-away? Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@midra nge.com> Does anyone else think that Quadrant was less than fully honest about this give-away? I thought it seemed very deceptive in the way it was advertized as compared to the way it was really handled. I was going to be seriously considering their software, but now I'm wondering if I really want to do business with a company that does something like this. Thank you, Ronald L. Zimmerman I.T. Applications Manager Swiss Valley Farms, Co. http://www.swissvalley.com "The Good for You Company" Email: Ron-Zimmerman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. -- This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. -- This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. -- This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. -- This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.
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