Re: COMMON Update... - the Porsche give-away? -- MIDRANGE-L

Don,

I know that I had talked with the Quadrant folks about looking at their 
products, so I am sure that when the make contact with me, I will be sure 
to bring up this whole sordid mess and tell them that they are going to 
have to do a better than usual sales job to get us to look at their 
products.

It was great to meet you in person and to put a face with some of the 
others who haunt these lists!  I hadn't been to COMMON in 14 years, so I 
had forgotten about how much goes on beside the formal sessions.

Time to go to bed tonight so that we can get up in the morning for the 
flight back to Iowa.  We're flying through Atlanta - I hope that's easier 
than going through O'Hare!

Thank you,
Ronald L. Zimmerman
I.T. Applications Manager
Swiss Valley Farms, Co.      http://www.swissvalley.com
"The Good for You Company"
Email: Ron-Zimmerman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx



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Ron,

He's not the only one that's really deeply disturbed by this "drawing."

I've historically had great respect for Quadrant, their products and 
people.  This "drawing" just was something I didn't expect from them. 
Granted, the old addage of "if it sounds too good to be true..." is 
something I was warned about by some of my associates before the 
"drawing"...but, I was just hoping that some lucky schmuck would come out 
a winner, and preferably not me.  I don't think alot of people will forget 

this "drawing" anytime soon.

One point needs to be made, as much as it may piss some people off.  The 
Quadrant "drawing" was paid for and scheduled at least 4 MONTHS BEFORE the 

events they conflicted with were scheduled.  Why/how the conflict happened 

in scheduling, I don't know and am happy to let the parties resolve 
internally.  And, yes, the events it conflicted with were really good 
ones.

Now, on to Minneapolis....brass monkeys optional...

Don in DC



On Thu, 22 Sep 2005, Ron-Zimmerman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

> Al,
>
> I'm glad to hear that someone of your stature has the same opinion of 
this
> fiasco!
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> Thank you,
> Ronald L. Zimmerman
> I.T. Applications Manager
> Swiss Valley Farms, Co.      http://www.swissvalley.com
> "The Good for You Company"
> Email: Ron-Zimmerman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> Quadrant
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> The room was too way small, and probably illegal.  The company generally
> deceived us that there was a car to be won.
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> IMHO, they did damage to their reputation.
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> Al
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> Al Barsa, Jr.
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> I thought it seemed very deceptive in the way it was advertized as
> compared to the way it was really handled.
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> I was going to be seriously considering their software, but now I'm
> wondering if I really want to do business with a company that does
> something like this.
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> Thank you,
> Ronald L. Zimmerman
> I.T. Applications Manager
> Swiss Valley Farms, Co.      http://www.swissvalley.com
> "The Good for You Company"
> Email: Ron-Zimmerman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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