RE: Green screen to GUI

Hi Joe,

        I have a lot of respect for you - I've read all your books and used 
them to
help introduce new technology/techniques to my shop.  I have never
complained about my job being difficult before - I like my job - I like
solving puzzles.  However in the current environment where I get two or
three new projects for each one I complete and everything has to be done
right now it would be a relief if there were a bit more help for the
initiate in the processes offered by IBM.

        I don't **think** I am stupid or lazy <grin> but I just spent the 
previous
week or so trying my level best to get a do nothing test web service working
on my iSeries.  (maybe you need to write a book on 'Web Services in 30
seconds' for those like me.) ;)  Now that I have done so, the real work
begins - that of building in the operating code to perform the business
functions needed - in my mind a week late.  The code has still got to be
written - I just hate spending my time wrestling with 'how does it really
work and how can I make it work?' issues when in my mind the infrastructure
of this web stuff should be exposed in a very obvious way.  That is there
should be a clear set of directions that work every time for the basics.

        I doubt I'll have anywhere near the problems on my next one.  One of the
main problems I had was trouble shooting - what went wrong?  Finding and
interpreting error messages is an arcane art - even IBM support admitted 'oh
yeah, that error message was bit misleading...'

        Anyway - have it your way - looking back everything seems simple.

Regards

Rick DuVall
Systems Manager
Dealer's Auto Auction of Okc
405 947-2886 Ext:143
rick@xxxxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Joe Pluta
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 9:32 AM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: Green screen to GUI


> From: Rick DuVall
>
>       I have been an c/rpg programmer since 1988 - mostly rpg.  I use
> subprocedures and ILE and make use of the various API's available when
> needed.  I have taken classes and read about java - we even use it
> extensively in xml processing.  But I have just spent the previous
week or
> so blundering through trying to get a web service to run on WAS
Express
> 5.0.
> I finally succeeded,  but my point is the Microsoft guys I have worked
> with
> would jeeringly state - 'I could have had that done in two hours on a
> microsoft platform with microsoft tools.'  AND THEY ARE RIGHT!  I've
seen
> it. DAMMIT!

I'm a little confused as to why it took you a week.  The Web Service
wizard allows you to create a Web Service from a bean in about 30
seconds.

As to what you can do with MS tools, it's simple: you can quickly design
DSS software.  Access data and show it in pretty screens.  But there is
no infrastructure for building advanced OLTP programs.  From
interplatform communications to interlanguage capabilities to database
access, the iSeries is sort of like a nitro-fueled dragster compared to
Microsoft's Pinto.  The Pinto is safe and grandma can drive it, but I
don't really want grandma writing my business applications.

That's really what a lot of people are asking for: "I want my job to be
EASY!"  But as soon as your job is easy, it won't be yours anymore.
It'll be shipped overseas, and then you can look for another easy job.

Joe

Joe

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