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It would appear from the several documents I've see that adding the disk to an array writes zeros, as does removing it (if you wipe data). Now, it would be _very_ annoying, but an add/remove/add/remove/add/remove sequence would write zeros six times, which IIRC is the minimum for DoD. Then again, it's been a long time since I looked at DoD in detail. -Walden ------------ Walden H Leverich III Tech Software (516) 627-3800 x11 WaldenL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.TechSoftInc.com Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur. (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.) -----Original Message----- From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ChadB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 7:10 AM To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion Subject: RE: complete "scrubbing" of our data from the disk You won't see complete records perhaps, but if you look at the data within DST you will be able to see more than you will probably be comfortable with. Enough to read names, SSNs, and ICD-9 or CPT codes was what I remember seeing. (Your record layouts will determine if the chunks of data are usable for anything...) I was told that at one point (break the arrays and it won't be readable), and was surprised to see how much was 'legible' within DST. The method mentioned in the link that Shalom Carmel posted does a pretty good at cleaning things up (delete disk unit data), where just breaking the arrays doesn't. ESPECIALLY for the confidentiality concerns that a hospital has... (that's where I worked when I checked the items from DST). I would be comfortable with going to the effort of zeroing the data if you know where the drives are 'going to'. Destroying the units is probably extreme in most cases, but i'm sure it is a necessary step for some shops. "John Candidi" <jacandidi@rutger sinsurance.com> To Sent by: "'Midrange Systems Technical midrange-l-bounce Discussion'" s@xxxxxxxxxxxx <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc 09/20/2005 03:17 Subject PM RE: complete "scrubbing" of our data from the disk Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@midra nge.com> If they are raided, just break the arrays by throwing some of them away today out of some of the arrays and other another day. Can't read the data if the arrays are broken. I believe -----Original Message----- From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Henza, Guy Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 1:19 PM To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: complete "scrubbing" of our data from the disk We are going to get rid of some disks. How do I do a complete bit-overwrite before disposal? Regards, Guy Henza Tri-State Hospital Supply Corporation 301 Catrel Howell MI 48844 fon (517) 546-5400 x1312 fax (517) 540-1513 GHenza@xxxxxxxxx -- This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. -- This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. ________________________________________________________________________ _____ Scanned by IBM Email Security Management Services powered by MessageLabs. For more information please visit http://www.ers.ibm.com ________________________________________________________________________ _____ ForwardSourceID:NT0002C4FA ________________________________________________________________________ _____ Scanned by IBM Email Security Management Services powered by MessageLabs. For more information please visit http://www.ers.ibm.com ________________________________________________________________________ _____
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