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All valid points.  Don't know exactly who you would contact at IBM 
regarding this concern.

Do you have that old defect email that came out a week or two ago?  If so, 
does it have a contact person?

What about contacting the person who worked with you on this pmr and have 
them see what they can do?

Have you tried the feedback form on the website for the ptf cover letter?


Rob Berendt
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I did a little more searching after reading Rob' and Jim's notes.

I actually had two [2] HIPERs.  Level 47 was shipped with the CUM 
(remember last week's discussion about HIPERs and CUMs?).  Before I 
installed I downloaded Level 49 from the FTP site.  I would have omitted 
47, except that the DB Group is included on the same CD.  So perhaps, as 
Jim says, the PTF was removed from 49, but I caught it on 47.

All of which sort of begs the questions: If IBM knew it was defective 
(and removing it from 49 indicates they did),
    a)   Why is it not listed as defective, and
    b)   Why was no notice sent out?

I know that IBM can do both of those things because they have in the 
past.  I've even gotten phone calls (from a real person!) saying, 
"Noticed you downloaded PTF so-and-so.  It's a bummer, don't install 
it."  At the very least there is a subscription list (to which I below, 
as most of you probably do, too) that sends out defect notices.  And, 
finally, as Neil's post shows, there is no defect notice on the PTF's 
page. 

Jerry C. Adams



Jim Franz wrote:

>Jerry mentioned he thought it was hiper level 47.
>Rob - you & I have 49.
>Jim
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: <rob@xxxxxxxxx>
>To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 4:35 PM
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>>I have a couple of V5R3 machines.  Some i5's, some iSeries.  Some with
>>lpar's, some without.  They are all at:
>>PTF Group             Level
>>SF99530                5102
>>SF99529                  49
>>SF99503                   4
>>and none of them have this ptf.
>>I wonder if you do a WRKPTFGRP, and, if you are not at level 49, put a 5
>>in front of SF99529 if you see it there.  Perhaps that had it on an
>>earlier hiper level, but removed it?
>>
>>Rob Berendt
>>-- 
>>Group Dekko Services, LLC
>>Dept 01.073
>>PO Box 2000
>>Dock 108
>>6928N 400E
>>Kendallville, IN 46755
>>http://www.dekko.com
>>
>>
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>>Jerry Adams <jerry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>>05/12/2005 12:40 PM
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>>I just finished applying the latest CUM (V5R3) and the HIPERs,
>>
>>The IPL after the install froze with SRC B2003200 LP=001.
>>
>>Anyway, with the help of a nice lady in Rochester I got over it.  To the
>>point MF34850 (which was on the HIPERs) is a defective PTF.  I subscribe
>>to the tech bulletin for defects, but never got anything on this one.
>>In fact, the accompanying list indicated several PTFs that were
>>superseded by this one.
>>
>>This was the 3 May HIPER, btw.  Unless there's something really critical
>>for me, I usually delay a week just to avoid something like this.  I've
>>gotten several notices in the past (calls, even, in one case) after I
>>might normally have applied the PTFs.  This one must have slipped
>>through the cracks.
>>
>>Just a heads up for everyone.
>>
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