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Joe,
It probably stems from a few thoughts:
1.) I haven't seen any recently quantified and current number comparing
the two....We track our iSeries systems and do well 99.97 or better. And
this is with a complex and mixed environment. But I'd feel better being
able to point to someone's black and white number regarding WINTEL.
2.) In a lot of customer environments they probably have good up times.
Like ours for example, we run a fair number of WINTEL servers (even 10
inboard). Now, of course, each system is effectively running one
application only and in some cases these systems are only providing
rudimentary services and are not full application systems. But we have
relatively few problems with our systems with regards to downtime.
3.) While it is a true cost of ownership item a lot of people tend to say,
hey if it's not cash I don't treat it the same. Not that I'd agree with
it...but lately I've even been seeing that kind of mentality creep into our
environment. Not cash going out, the concern level is less.
4.) And last but not least, I am fully convinced that a lot of WINTEL
people are completely comfortable with living with downtime and security
issues. I'm not saying it's right but I think there are a lot of people
who accept mediocrity. Our WINTEL based portal and some of our plant
floor systems rely on SQL server. Two years ago we had to shut them all
down due to SQL Server virus problems. 24 hours for some while systems
were patched. Move forward 12 months later we have our CFO saying that our
SAP platform has to be SQL Server......the same one that was shutdown for
24 hours......If that had been one of my systems shut down for 24 hours I'd
be hearing that outage as a reason to replace the system for at least the
next five years...........
Michael Crump
Manager, Computing Services
Saint-Gobain Containers
1509 S. Macedonia Ave.
Muncie, IN 47302
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Joe Pluta
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> While I still think that downtime and security are issues I normally
try
> to
> downplay them more than we have in the past. WINTEL availability
numbers
> are not bad, I'm sure you have some people with bad experiences but I
> think you have just as many if not more with good experiences.
Mike, I don't know why you would downplay availability. While Wintel
numbers may indeed be getting better, they still have a LOOOOONG way to
go before they come close to iSeries numbers. You CAN get pretty good
numbers using redundant systems, but then you really have issues of
complexity (as well as cost).
Joe
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