Re: Hmmmm.....$1 Billion

[Dan Kimmel<dkimmel@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

There's absolutely no reason to multi-thread in an interactive job. If you 
want that functionality build it in a batch job and talk to the 
interactive job using the other rich interprocess communications features 
of OS400. Use a data queue or a message queue or a data area.

There are no "interactive" jobs on other systems; only batch jobs. In 
windows, your programs are batch jobs. All the interactivity is handled by 
 windows which communicates with your job through the windows message 
queue. Batch jobs on OS400 are equally powered or greater.

If you're going to slam OS400, at least learn what you're talking about.

Dan




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Unless IBM improves the core OS400, I dont think we will get as good
results from this spending as we could.

The fact that you cant run multiple threads in an interactive job in
os400 tells you there are underlying problems with the system code. as
in bugs. Those "bugs" have remained for a number of releases now so
the worry is that IBM management has decided OS400 is not worth the
expense of a major thread safe rewrite.

Threads are important.  Without them you cant implement an event
driven programming model.  And the popularity of Visual Basic shows
how productive event driven programming can be.

-Steve


On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 09:18:19 -0500, Mike.Crump@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<Mike.Crump@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> http://www.arnnet.com.au/index.php/id;1194359082
> 
> Notice the point about the US$ billion in the 3rd statement line....and 
the
> best kept secret in the 4th statement....and the individuality in the 
5th
> statement....:-)
> 
> "Claiming the small and medium-sized business (SMB) market was growing 
at
> more than three times the pace of the enterprise, IBM is keen to expand 
its
> presence in the space, executives said.
> 
> "We've got to do better in SMB," vice-president of worldwide systems 
sales
> with IBM's Systems and Technology Group, Emilie McCabe, said. "We are
> putting more resources in SMB, sales resources and technical resources."
> 
> However, many of those resources will come from outside of the division
> selling the Intel-based xSeries. IBM plans to spend US$1 billion over 
the
> next several years reinvigorating its neglected iSeries line of
> mini-computers, which have long held a foothold in the mid-market.
> 
> "Our partners said that we've got to improve our image in the 
marketplace,"
> general manager of iSeries, Mark Shearer, said. "I have spoken with
> hundreds of partners and clients around the world and everyone tells me
> that the iSeries is the best kept secret."
> 
> One IBM partner was happy to see signs that IBM was reinvesting in 
iSeries.
> "They need to give the brand its individuality back," president and 
chief
> executive officer of iSeries software developer, NewGeneration Software,
> Bernard Gough, said."
> 
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