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True. Also IBM requires the colleges to have a "Partner in Education". Basically this is some local business, etc that sponsors the college. Some instructors may come out of this arrangement, but I suspect it is really to show the college that some local businesses have a need for these positions. Rob Berendt -- Group Dekko Services, LLC Dept 01.073 PO Box 2000 Dock 108 6928N 400E Kendallville, IN 46755 http://www.dekko.com michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 01/31/2005 10:34 AM Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Subject RE: IBM a personal comment Part of that is also the declining enrollment for those classes, which is probably as a result of decreasing demand for iSeries programmers. I developed the AS/400 curriculum for a community college in mid-Michigan. We were going gangbusters in the mid 80 to early 90s...classes were full...we were teaching RPG and Operations and tons of good classes...even had a distance learning program over the Internet. But then the market started drying up...AS/400 programmers weren't much in demand, so classes were cancelled and fewer offered in subsequent terms. Eventually the program just stopped...while the C++ and Java and Microsoft Office product classes were full. The college has a mission to meet the needs of the community and they were doing that. Quick search on Monster...iSeries OR AS/400 - 14 hits; Java - 182 hits; java and (iseries or AS/400) - 0 hits. > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: IBM a personal comment > From: "Shields, Ken" <kenshields@xxxxxxx> > Date: Mon, January 31, 2005 10:22 am > To: "Midrange Mailing LIst (E-mail)" <Midrange-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Group Hi > > I recently discovered that IBM , out of the goodness of their hearts made a large contribution of software to a local > College.(There was probably some tax implications here) > The College has gone on to become a full fledged University, and Institute of Technology, which for the purpose > of this writing will be unnamed > > To this date, no courses in that E-Commerce software have been initiated by the Institute. I imagine the reason > given , is lack of attendance (on the College's part), but also because there probably exists no > computer equipment, and CA programs , on which to test and educate the student population. > I imagine the plan was to offer the College/University the free software, and then have THEM purchase the > /400...ISeries base to initiate the courses > That last step probably was outside the realm of the College's budget (just surmising here) > To be fair, there are other Colleges in the area which offer /400 classes , but are not current and again, they too > cancel classes because of lack of demand. (I wonder why?..) > > My personal feeling is that IBM will continue to lose the market share, NOT because they make an inferior product, > but because they are not getting proactively involved in the education of our students. > I'll wager most graduates are quite converse with Microsoft software and .NET, but haven't a clue about IBM 's > offerings. > And just whose software and world will these budding graduates look to in the future? > > The old adage " You have to spend money to make money", is no more self evident than in this very critical area > of people's lives. > > Regards > > Ken Shields > PPG Canada Inc > Ph: 905 725 1144 (326) > Fx: 905 433 8712 > > > -- > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. -- This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.
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