Re: Back to Reverse DNS -- MIDRANGE-L

Scott Klement wrote:

Maybe I don't understand the problem at all...  For some reason I have a
really hard time understanding humans.  Computers are easy, people are
very hard to understand.


You might understand it, but we do not understand it the same way.

My understanding was that the iSeries worked for the specific cell phones
that he was trying to send the mail to when it was relaying through
outgoing.verizon.net --  but that this breaks everything else.  And
that's what this suggestion was based on.

My understanding is everything (no email is sent) when the AS400 is relaying through outgoing.verizon.net including the cell phones.

If the cell phones don't work when sending to outgoing.verizon.net, then
you're right, this won't do anything different.

That is my understanding (cell phones don't work when sending to outgoing.verizon.net form AS400).

And what is his program going to tell outgoing.verizon.net that the
AS400 SMTP is not telling it. Even if you meant go to cwemail.com mail
server I do not see what his program could tell their mail server so it
does not think it is spam.

Okay.  Why does the outlook mail client work, but the iSeries not?  I
thought that the reason was that the outlook mail client was going
to outgoing.verizon.net .. and that the iSeries couldn't do that because
it broke other mail aside from the cell phone mail?

It is my understanding that the outlook mail client works for sending msg to cell phone when going through outgoing.verizon.net. but all iSeries mail stops (including cell phone msg) when it is directed at outgoing.verizon.net.

Writing a program would allow you to bypass the iSeries mail server.  But,
if nothing works going through outgoing.verizon.net, then it won't solve
the problem.


That is my understanding.

My suggestions are based on the idea that the outlook client works because
it's sending directly to outgoing.verizon.net -- and that the only reason
he's not setting up his iSeries this way is because it breaks something
else.  At any rate, if the outlook client is working, you should be able
to write an iSeries program that does the exact same thing.

Well I do not know that I could, but I know what you are saying. My problem is the authentication of SMTP.

>>I think he would be better off checking what kind of authentication

verizion will accept. POP before SMTP or clear text would be my only
hope (I am not that good at encryption) and then write a program to
handle it.

I didn't even know that POP before SMTP was an option?!  The problem with
POP before SMTP is that you need the ISP to support it, it's not something
that you can do entirely on your side.  If the ISP supports it and it
solves the problem, then great, do that.

I do not know that it is. But I did not think he knew enough to ask Verzion if it was an option that is why I brought it up to ask verzion what they accept.

And as long as we are on that does anyone have a good link to how that works. I tried it once and it did not work (I have control over the mail server so I know it will handle it) but from the client how does the communication have to work (start on port 110 but how do you switch to port 25).

John Ross