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Joe is describing our environment. We use an iSeries to run our business (LTL trucking) -- when the iSeries is down, we're pretty much shut down (the trucks still move, but the terminals can't do much). We schedule our downtime and the rest of the business schedules around this. Our SQL Server app collects data and sends it to our iSeries. When the iSeries is down, the data just sits on the SQL Server. We actually have tried an HA solution for our iSeries, we run on an 830 and have an 820 as a backup machine, and we use Vision's software to keep the two in sync. We get higher availability by backing up the 820 instead of the 830, but we do not swap over to the 820 when we are doing maintenance to the 830, we go down. We tried the swap once; it didn't go well and upper management got scared, so we bailed on this. Don't ask me why, I wanted to keep practicing until we got it right. But even if we could do this, it would still take us 10 - 15 minutes to swap. Don't get me wrong, that's very good (better than being down hours), but I still wouldn't consider it truly high availability. If we were a business that needed zero downtime (planned or otherwise), we'd need a way to failover to another iSeries seamlessly. I don't know of anything that can help us do that on the iSeries, and I don't know that it's even possible on an iSeries. If it were a requirement (and I can't say that it won't be in the future), I guess we'd need to look into other platforms. Mike E. "Joe Pluta" <joepluta@xxxxxxxxxx To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> ers.com> cc: Sent by: Subject: RE: iSeries vs. Unix vs. SQL Server vs. Oracle midrange-l-bounces@x idrange.com 08/04/2003 12:02 PM Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion > From: Walden H. Leverich III > > >You don't need to cluster an iSeries for reliability; that's the point. > >You may cluster them for HA, but that's a different issue. > > OK, I think we're splitting hairs here, but yes, it's reliable w/o > clustering, but it won't always be available w/o clustering -- to the user > it's the same thing. Actually, no, I don't think I'm splitting hairs. I think there's a very real difference in business requirements between HA and normal, reliable operations. A single-machine solution like the iSeries has a disadvantage in HA environments, simply because it's a single point of failure. Let's face it, machines do need downtime, and so if you're looking at HA statistics, a single iSeries is probably going to achieve a less perfect uptime record than, say, 10 redundant SQL servers. However, in less stringent environments where you can schedule downtime for maintenance, PTFs, full system backups and the like, a single iSeries may outperform several PC-based servers, to the point where the hardware price point is pretty even, and now you're talking support staff costs (at which point the iSeries to my knowledge beats any other platform). So, in reality, HA vs. "reliable" is a significant business requirement point. Joe _______________________________________________ This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.
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