RE: Spoolfile Cleanup on powerdown/restart -- MIDRANGE-L

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Hear hear!


I told everyone here that after 90 days their spool files go bye-bye.  No
exceptions.  If the data is that vital it needs to be in something that is
regularly backed up.  Spool files aren't.  Even with a complete system
save.  Home wrote our own.  If you want a freebie, from IBM, you can try:
http://www.ibm.com/eserver/iSeries/support/s_dir/slkbase.nsf/c5100f8165ec3eb386256c230059fbac/b9aad3d06604c8e4862566af005bc738?OpenDocument&Highlight=0,13954227

Your choices include one or more of the following:
Implementing a spool retain policy.
Running RCLSPLSTG on a timely basis
Buying more disk

If you've really got dollars to waste, then spend it on time.  Add up the
sizes of the objects in QSPL before and after RCLSPLSTG.  Then add them up
again after each of 7 consecutive ipl's.  By the time you are done you'll
find out that you've spent more on this project than a disk drive large
enough to hold twice the number of spool files you have now.

Rob Berendt
--
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Benjamin Franklin




"Al Barsa" <barsa@barsaconsulting.com>
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I suspect that you have very little wasted space.  If your QSPL files have
gotten really overweight from having members added and removed over and
over again, then the only thing you can do is a cold start, but I suspect
that you will benefit very little.  Time to use one of the following two
commands:

DLTSPLF and stop using your system as a file cabinet for spool
SPENDMONEY and buy DASD

Al Barsa, Jr.
Barsa Consulting Group, LLC

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                      "Norbut, Jim"
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                      12/05/2002 06:41
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I have the QRCLSPLSTG set at 5 days.

Here's my Cleanup settings :

Allow automatic cleanup . . . . . . . . . . . . .   Y


 Time cleanup starts each day  . . . . . . . . . .   22:00:00


 Number of days to keep:

   User messages . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   7
   System and workstation messages . . . . . . . .   7
   Job logs and other system output  . . . . . . .   7
   System journals and system logs . . . . . . . .   30
   OfficeVision for AS/400 calendar items  . . . .   30


Doing a DSPLIB QSPL *PRINT give me a total of   8032243712
Which is roughly 8 GIGS....that's what I assume he is talking about.




-----Original Message-----
From: Al Barsa [mailto:barsa@barsaconsulting.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 5:10 PM
To: midrange-l@midrange.com
Subject: Re: Spoolfile Cleanup on powerdown/restart


IPL isn't going to help.  You can lower the system QRCLSPLSTG, but this
won't buy you much, and will cost you runtime performance.  How are you
measuring QSPL at 9GB?  Make sure that automatic cleanup is enabled. (GO
CLEANUP with *ALLOBJ authority)

Al

Al Barsa, Jr.
Barsa Consulting Group, LLC

400>390

914-251-1234
914-251-9406 fax

http://www.barsaconsulting.com
http://www.taatool.com






                      "Norbut, Jim"
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                      12/05/2002 05:54
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Background : 75Gigs of DASD
             85% Used
             QSPL is nearly 9 gigs

My boss wants to incorporate a nightly powerdown/restart
pwrdwnsys option(*immed) restart(*yes) into the nightly
backup to clear up used spool file space or cleanup qspl in general.

1) is there such a process to do this already built into the IPL

He says the answer is yes...but only every so many IPL's
Does it actually "flip the switch" and run this process.

I told him that sounds strange...either it should do it
Every time or not.

So which one of is more crazy?

P.S. I don't want to hear about RGPFM or any other command
That will save space...we know about those.
I just was curious about the spool file cleanup process
During a restart.

Thanks,

Jim

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