Re: The Linux Hole -- MIDRANGE-L

Maybe theyaren't doing a CAE for linux because they would jsut have you use
IBM Host on Demand?

As for ops Navigator, how critical is it really?  In all honesty ... I onyl
use Ops Nav to pull down spool files onto desktop.  Everythign else I do via
green screen ... and I have only used the As/400 for a couple years.  I
actually find using Ops Nav too damn slow.

Adam Lang
Systems Engineer
Rutgers Casualty Insurance Company
http://www.rutgersinsurance.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jan Megannon" <jmegannon@intekom.co.za>
To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: The Linux Hole


>
>
> Leif Svalgaard wrote:
> > From: Jan Megannon <jmegannon@intekom.co.za>
> >
> >>Leif, how does Ops Nav work at the moment? Is there a (pre) processor
> >>task that is connected to a server task on the 400 that waits for an
> >>incoming request and then serves the request? If so, why can IBM not
> >>write or port just the portion of code required for Linux? I realize
> >>that I am over-simplifyng this, but with the genii that IBM purports to
> >>have (as well as the oodles of boodle!) this should be a walk in the
park!
> >
> >
> > I think you are correct on the architecture of Oops Nav, but IBM
> > has to ask themselves how many customers run Linux instead of
> > Windoze. That percentage is way down (maybe less than 5%) so
> > the cost of having two versions of Oops Nav would be too great.
> >
>
> Response appreciated. Yet it is this same opinion of 'chicken and egg'
> that ensures that M$ will retain their share of the market. The question
> was asked on this list as to when Ops Nav will be available on Linux. My
> belief is that, for every question that is placed on this list, there
> are 100 000 people/customers/users/sysadmins out there that are thinking
>   the same thing.
>
> I am in South Africa. There are some major companies that are moving
> selected systems (some servers, others moving all plus desktops) to
> Linux. The choice of desktop OS is based PURELY on the functionality
> that can be employed on it. If IBM had the cahones, they would roll out
> full CA Express on Linux.
>
> I do not know the cost of developers in the U.S. Say it is US$200 (I am
> sure this is WAY over) per hour. That equals US$1600 per eight hour day.
> Times 20 developers equals US$32000 per day. Times 220 working days per
> annum equals US$7 040 000. How much did IBM say they were throwing at
> Linux? Why not provide us with desktop access to the AS400/iSeries,
> before enticing us to go LPAR? There is more revenue on the desktop than
> on the server. So the OS is for free. They can still charge for the
> application!
>
> Just a thought.
>
> Jan.
>
> Hippocrates (I think it was him) said : The chicken is an actual chicken
> and the egg is a potential chicken. As actuality precedes potentiality,
> therefore the chicken was before the egg!