Yes....I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy....luckily it's our "test"
system.
But it's been "down" nearly 2 weeks now....and still we have no concrete
steps that will fix it.

If anyone is using ops console on any machine....I would highly suggest to
make
Sure that you have IBM involved from the front....before even attempting to
go from V4R? to V5R1.

They may balk at you...but force the issue....it's better than where I am
sitting right now.
Either that...or just wait.....until they fix this bug w/ a ptf or a new
card or better instructions.

Just mention PMR # 66778 when you talk to them...and they will see what a
problem this issue really is.

 -----Original Message-----
From:   Mark Allen [mailto:allenmark@nu-z.net]
Sent:   Wednesday, January 16, 2002 12:16 PM
To:     midrange-l@midrange.com
Subject:        RE: 270 Ops Console

Yes please do so maybe it'll get fixed before I do it!!!!

Mark Allen
I.S. Manager
Wilkes Telephone & Electric
A Dycom Company
Phone: (706) 678-9565
Email: allenmark@nu-z.net
http://www.nu-z.net




:-----Original Message-----
:From: midrange-l-admin@midrange.com
:[mailto:midrange-l-admin@midrange.com] On Behalf Of Mike Shaw
:Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:09 PM
:To: midrange-l@midrange.com
:Subject: Re: 270 Ops Console
:
:
:Jim,
:
:This is a known problem within IBM.  Had the same issue doing
:a V4R4 to V5R1 upgrade last month on a Model 720 2063.  Wound
:up having to do the install of Licened Program Products
:manually........I not only raised hell with the support
:center, but also pushed this through another channel as a post
:install review.  Have heard nothing back as of
:yet......................
:
:You are right on the mark about much end user responsibility
:that is not documented in the install guide or memo to users.
:If anyone else has experienced this, please, please log your
:complaint with IBM!!!!!!  Maybe if enough do that, this will
:get fixed.................
:
:Regards,
:
:Mike Shaw
:----- Original Message -----
:From: "Norbut, Jim" <Jim.Norbut@Grubb-Ellis.com>
:To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
:Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 9:49 AM
:Subject: RE: 270 Ops Console
:
:
:> Man......if that's what it takes to go from V4R5 to V5R1...why don't
:> they say so in the install manual. Seems like a lot of "end user"
:> responsibility to figure all this stuff out on their own.
:>
:> My 2771 is in C07 and my 2745 is in C06 (ibm told me to do it this
:> way) And I have the ops console cable in the 2771.
:>
:> I was able to get the lic for V5R1 installed...but now can't do the
:> additional licensed programs.
:>
:> Getting the error "Installation not complete. File system not
:> available"
:>
:> It just get's more interesting all the time <G>
:>
:>  -----Original Message-----
:> From: Dwayne Lindner [mailto:Dwayne.Lindner@writ.wesfarmers.com.au]
:> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 7:45 PM
:> To: 'midrange-l@midrange.com'
:> Subject: RE: 270 Ops Console
:>
:> > Fiddly is putting it mildly.....in the last 3 days I have
:had 3 IBM
:> > CE's out here
:> > And yesterday (2 at one time all afternoon) Looking at my
:> > 270...and we still
:> > can't get it to upgrade from V4R5 to V5R1 correctly.
:> >
:>
:> There's your first mistake :-).  Too many CE's.
:>
:> What slot is the 2771 in ??  From memory, it should be C06 if you
:> don't
:have
:> the 2745 installed...
:>
:> Our setup works with the 2771 in C04 and the 2745 in C06 with Ops
:> Console plugged into the 2771.  I swapped the cable from the 2745 to
:> the 2771
:during
:> the IPL after LIC install when upgrading to V5R1. Upgrade your Ops
:> Console to V5R1 at the same time!
:>
:> We've got 820's, but the setup should be identical for the 270's.
:>
:> > We have switched card locations and change the ops console
:cable to
:> > Run off of the 2745 card (which V4R5 likes) to the 2771
:card (which
:> > V5R1
:> > likes)
:>
:> If you switch before upgrading it simply won't work!!  Been there,
:> done that!
:>
:> Good luck!
:>
:> Dwayne Lindner
:> Team Leader - Data Centre
:> Wesfarmers Rural Information Technology
:> 184 Railway Parade, Bassendean WA 6054
:> Ph: (08) 9273 5365    Mob: 0407 386 693
:> Email: dwayne.lindner@writ.wesfarmers.com.au
:>
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