RE: US Navy bets on Win2K

["jt" <jt@xxxxxx>]

Jim,

Good points, all...!  Especially the first one.  I dunno...  Maybe IBM
figures that they "already fought that battle and lost".  Wonder if it would
take "an act of Congress" for the Navy to revisit that decision...?

BTW, I'm still having a hard time seeing how much commercial off-the-self
(COTS) software the Navy is actually going to be using.  I can't imagine
it'd be very much.  So what's the point in favor of an COTS toy-OS?

jt

| -----Original Message-----
| From: midrange-l-admin@midrange.com
| [mailto:midrange-l-admin@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Jim Franz
| Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 7:50 PM
| To: midrange-l@midrange.com
| Subject: Re: US Navy bets on Win2K
|
|
| To bring this back to an iSeries discussion, why doesn't someone (IBM)
| propose
| to the Navy to run the Win2k on the most reliable platform, an iSeries?
|
| one last joke - can you say "server farm" on a ship?  maybe
| "server convoy?"
|
| btw -back in '98 when the ship floated for 3 hours, there were a number of
| articles
| and discussions posted on the net. What is missing from some articles is
| that
| it did take a reboot of NT to recover from a divide by zero
| buffer overflow.
| It's been
| a couple years, but I saw some of the Navy's discussion of this on their
| public web sites.
| Found all of this from y2k research. Like any other Gov
| procurement, once a
| decision
| was made, nobody will dare stand up to challenge it.
|
| jim
|
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "Buck Calabro" <Buck.Calabro@commsoft.net>
| To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
| Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 4:26 PM
| Subject: Re: US Navy bets on Win2K
|
|
| > The slam on Windows is a bit inaccurate.
| >
| > Yorktown was running NT 4.0 alright, but it was a prototype
| version of the
| > application software that crashed, not NT.  It wasn't NT that
| brought the
| > propulsion system down, it was the propulsion software, and THAT failed
| > because the prototype wasn't validity checking the input,
| causing a divide
| > by zero.
| >
| > Interested readers can peruse a more even handed article on
| this issue at
| > http://www.sciam.com/1998/1198issue/1198techbus2.html   Please bear in
| mind
| > that everywhere (even the Navy) there are rarely "discussions"
| about which
| > OS is best; there are often political turf wars.  This incident
| appears to
| > be one of them, as the main opposition to NT appears to be
| another vendor
| > who wants to offer a Unix solution.
| >
| > The only reason I care is because I've been the personal target of
| managers
| > blaming the AS/400 for application software faults.  We lost a sale
| because
| > somebody at the potential client had a vague recollection that "OS/400
| > sucked at journalling."  No data to back that feeling up, but what
| > difference does that make in a religious argument?  This'll be
| my last on
| > the subject, but we'd better learn how to adopt Windows
| technology _where
| it
| > makes sense_ rather than mutter about the blue screen of death
| ad nauseam
| > and show the sign of the evil eye to ward it off.  Like it or
| not, Windows
| > is here and it's not going away.  It's on the corporate desktop
| and in the
| > server farm.  They have stuff we can take advantage of, to
| lever ourselves
| > and our platform into organisations.  We are NOT going to do that by
| making
| > wisecracks about the sysadmin's choice of system to her boss.
| >
| > Isn't that very wisecracking of misinformation what's dogging
| the iSeries?
| > We'd be better off showing off how well we play with Windows than trying
| to
| > show how poor Windows is.  Just my opinion, and it's worth
| every penny you
| > all paid for it!
| >   --buck
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