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Then, how about this? Assumptions: IBM makes money selling iSeries IBM has competition IBM has to make money on services because it's losing money on every PC it sells Strategy: IBM, business partners and AS400/iSeries customers promote the iSeries as THE best commercial server ever not just to us diehards but to everyone. Result: IBM sells millions of profitable iSeries servers, displaces the competition, sells more profitable iSeries servers, realises that it can still provide high-end, strategic services, sell more profitable iSeries servers. -----Original Message----- From: Andy Nolen-Parkhouse Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 8:25 AM To: midrange-l@midrange.com Subject: RE: Help Save the iSeries Friends, My understanding is that IBM is experiencing its greatest revenue growth in services, not hardware or software. It is also my understanding that IBM is among the largest suppliers of Microsoft-related services in the world. While I may not be absolutely correct, I believe that there is some truth there and that an IBM Sales Representative who is more interested in revenue than customer service would recommend a Microsoft solution if there was a good chance that IBM would get the services contract. I also believe that IBM management would thank them for their efforts. Andy Nolen-Parkhouse > On Behalf Of Reeve Fritchman > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 7:36 PM > > No, no, no! TCO covers everything, including power, insurance, > depreciation, software, communications, and people. Instead of a staff of > 20 (for NT) you need a staff of 6 (iBox); these bodies are purchased on > the > open market and have nothing to do with IBM; this is where the big savings > is. The hardware TCO may be the same or higher for the iBox; it's > certainly > front-end-loaded (high purchase price) and this fact has an unfavorable > financial impact. A lot depends on the PC configuration and how you > compare > apples to oranges. A PC network configured to provide iSeries reliability > will have plenty of extra hardware, software, and administrative costs. > > If you're talking about multiple remote locations, NT costs can skyrocket > because of the possible requirement for servers and licenses at each > remote > location, instead of a simple switch/LAN setup. Your mileage may vary, > but > if you're a trucking company with 10-50 small (3-10 users) offices spread > out everywhere, the hardware (and application) setup gets very complex. A > simple DSL line may not be adequate, either...green screen has its merits: > it gets the job done. > > Behalf Of Leif Svalgaard > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 5:18 PM > > exactly, the lower the TCO is, the less money for IBM, so ... > > From: Tony Pack <tony.pack@dixiegroup.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 11:15 AM > > > No, IBM wants to sell the X-series. The real money to be made is in > > software and services. Can't make much money on the 400 since it does > not > > need the level of service that a PC server does. > > Tony Pack _______________________________________________ This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.
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