RE: V4R4 -----> V5R1

["Bale, Dan" <D.Bale@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Title: RE: V4R4 -----> V5R1

Yikes!  1.5 million spooled files?  Do you have a DR plan for those?  Do you do something to "backup" the spool files?  If so, what do you use?

Dan Bale
IT - AS/400
Handleman Company
248-362-4400  Ext. 4952
D.Bale@Handleman.com
  Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
  (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)

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-----Original Message-----
From:   Haase, Justin C. [SMTP:Justin.Haase@Kingland.com]
Sent:   Tuesday, August 14, 2001 1:22 PM
To:     'midrange-l@midrange.com'
Subject:        RE: V4R4 -----> V5R1

Yes.  Watch out for the spools.  1.5 million here, took 11 hours on a 12-way
740 to get through that part.

Justin C. Haase
Midrange Systems Engineer - Kingland Systems Corporation
IBM Certified AS/400 Systems Administrator
Microsoft Certified Professional
phone - 641.355.1035
e-mail - justin.haase@kingland.com
www.kingland.com




-----Original Message-----
From: Westdorp, Tom [mailto:Tom.Westdorp@StationCasinos.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 11:32 AM
To: midrange-l@midrange.com
Subject: RE: V4R4 -----> V5R1




I don't know Pete, our systems group did the upgrade.  They're blaming the
extended downtime on the 300,000 spool files on the system.  They may have
just done the hot site box, figured "Hey, they're the same..." and so asked
for six hours again.

Have you got links to those conversion estimate jobs handy?

Our systems guys are pretty darn good, but nobody's infallible or perfect
and a pointer to those jobs might save them from this kind of flack next
time.

You should have heard the user chorus when they got the email about
tonight's 6 hour downtime for the hardware upgrade (2 iStars to 4 sStars)!
It would be funny if I didn't know how the ops guys felt.  It's tough to
take that kind of downtime in a 24x7x52 casino environment.  It took the
system away from 9 casinos and 8 hotels.

I'm just warning folks, do your homework.  And by all means watch the
hiper's.  That disk utilization bug is MEAN.  Even after the hiper's are
applied we're still climbing... just more slowly.  An IPL of our development
box last night got back 20% of 429gb.  There's still a hole somewhere.

-----Original Message-----
From: Pete Massiello [mailto:pmassiello@os-solutions.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 6:03 AM
To: midrange-l@midrange.com
Subject: Re: V4R4 -----> V5R1




In each case did you run the conversion estimate jobs for Spool files,
User Profiles, and QADB* files, and how close were they to your total
 time to convert.  There is a lot to estimate for going to V5R1, you
have the regular replace LIC, OS/400, & LPPs plus the above conversions.

    Pete Massiello

Westdorp, Tom wrote:

>Time estimates!
>Our hot backup site model 820 2-way took < 4 hours
>Our live site model 820 2-way took ~20 hours! (ops estimated 6hrs)
>
>Hiper's!
>each box we took to v5r1 immediately started running up the disk used at a
>prodigious rate, till they hit 98% and we IPL'ed.  Happened after one of
the
>beta drops, when we GA'd our 720 development box and when we upgraded each
>820.
>
>Quite messy in each of our cases.
>
>Tom Westdorp
>AS/400 Senior Programmer/Analyst
>IBM Certified Specialist - RPG IV Programmer
>IBM Certified Specialist - RPG IV Developer
>Certified Master RPG IV Programmer
>Voice: (702) 221-6859
>tom.westdorp@stationcasinos.com
>
>==> The trouble with hitting the jackpot on a slot machine is that it takes
>so long to put the money back.
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: SCarter@rsrcorp.com [mailto:SCarter@rsrcorp.com]
>Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 11:51 AM
>To: midrange-l@midrange.com
>Subject: V4R4 -----> V5R1
>
>
>
>We are planning on moving to V5R? in the next Month.  While we are planning
>some down time are there any Gothcas we need to be on the look out for?
>
>What are the benefits of moving to V5?
>
>I know they made some enhancements to RPG IV, but is there really anything
>else?
>
>
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Pete Massiello
OS Solutions International
Phone: (203)-744-7854  Ext 11.
http://www.os-solutions.com
mailto:pmassiello@os-solutions.com





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