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I'll admit that there might be some 'pure' M36 customers. But I would hope
that some are running mixed mode: Some native, some M36, and maybe some
36E. The developers working on the M36 don't care what version the OS is
on. They're lemmings. The developers working in the native version are
either working on seperate projects or the replacement solution. They
might care about which version the OS is on. These companies might have to
make a decision as to when to 's^!+ or get off the pot'.
Rob Berendt
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A smart person learns from their mistakes,
but a wise person learns from OTHER peoples mistakes.
"Bale, Dan"
<D.Bale@handleman.c To:
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for M36?
owner-midrange-l@mi
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07/26/2001 12:19 PM
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MIDRANGE-L
Agreed, Rob, but in the scenario which prompted this thread, I did not get
the feeling that this M36 customer was going to purchasing V5R1 software
any time soon. Since they're M36, doesn't that preclude *any* native
AS/400 environment? If so, they couldn't add any new software if they
wanted to. Well, I digress, but is there any S/36 software packages out
there available for sale?
Any shop still running M36 long ago decided that the environment was
sufficient for them then, and still is now. It is in my (shallow???)
opinion that these shops have no need to upgrade the OS. Everything works
fine as is. If the system is up-to-date on PTFs, there should be no need
to worry about IBM dropping support for the release.
Or have I missed something here?
Dan Bale
IT - AS/400
Handleman Company
248-362-4400 Ext. 4952
D.Bale@Handleman.com
Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
(Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)
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-----Original Message-----
From: rob@dekko.com [SMTP:rob@dekko.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 11:17 AM
To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
Subject: RE: last OS400 ver for M36?
Unless of course you accept software from any vendor running V5R1.
One example is compile a screen with HLPARA(*RCD) on V5R1 and try to
get
that to run on a machine running anything earlier than V4R5. And V4R5
will
only work if you have ptf's SF65906 and SF65976.
Not counting this bug, sooner or later you'll want to take advantage
of a
newer feature.
I heard an interesting story this week. Seems that a software vendor
polled their customer base, at a user group meeting, as to whether or
not
they would be upset if they stopped supporting anything prior to V4R3.
There were ZERO objections. They were stunned. They pulled some of
them
aside to confirm. Some confessed to being on an earlier version but
were
praying for the day when that vendor would stop supporting the old
version
so they would have an excuse for management to upgrade.
Rob Berendt
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A smart person learns from their mistakes,
but a wise person learns from OTHER peoples mistakes.
"Bale, Dan"
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07/25/2001 07:30 PM
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MIDRANGE-L
I guess I just look at our systems - a development box stuck at V3R2
and
several other boxes at V3R7 - and these things just keep going and
going
and going. These will be replaced SOON(Yeah !!!), but for those
companies
who insist on staying with a product that IBM chooses to abandon, I
guess I
don't see any reason to get upset about being stuck on an old release
of
OS/400. In my experience, by the time IBM drops support for a given
release, that release is stable enough to run without problems for a
long,
long time.
Dan Bale
IT - AS/400
Handleman Company
248-362-4400 Ext. 4952
D.Bale@Handleman.com
Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
(Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jerome Draper [SMTP:jdraper@trilosoft.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 7:41 PM
To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
Subject: Re: last OS400 ver for M36?
That's the plan for now.
Jerry
Jerome Draper, Trilobyte Software Systems, since 1976
Network and Connectivity Specialist -- Mac's, LAN's, PC's,
Windows,
Linux, Sun, and AS/400
Representing Synapse, CLI, Nlynx, Perle, Lucent, 3Com and Others
.....
<http://www.trilosoft.com> - (415) 457-3431 - (415) 258-1658fax -
jdraper@trilosoft.com <mailto:jdraper@trilosoft.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: Bale, Dan <mailto:D.Bale@handleman.com>
To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com <mailto:MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 3:41 PM
Subject: RE: last OS400 ver for M36?
>what the heck are they supposed to do?
Um, why not just stay at V4R4?
Dan Bale
IT - AS/400
Handleman Company
248-362-4400 Ext. 4952
D.Bale@Handleman.com <mailto:D.Bale@Handleman.com>
Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
(Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)
-------------------------- Original Message
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jerome Draper [SMTP:jdraper@trilosoft.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 6:04 PM
To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
Subject: Re: last OS400 ver for M36?
Thanks.
How many AS/S36 shops are there and what the heck
are
they supposed to do?
They could migrate to S36E to get to V4R5 but then S36E
sunsets.
So then
what?
Believe me. These shops are not going to rewrite to
native AS400 next week.
We are talking simple businesses that work fine as is.
Joe Frank, senior architect of SSP, told me that you
can
teach a person to
run a S36 in one day and they can. You can teach a person
to run
an AS400
in a week and they still can't do it.
:-)
Jerry
Jerome Draper, Trilobyte Software Systems, since
1976
Network and Connectivity Specialist -- Mac's, LAN's, PC's,
Windows, Linux,
Sun, and AS/400
Representing Synapse, CLI, Nlynx, Perle, Lucent, 3Com and
Others
.....
<http://www.trilosoft.com> - (415) 457-3431 - (415)
258-1658fax -
jdraper@trilosoft.com
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