Re: The economy and developers

I guess we all will be fliping hamburgers after all.
> Edmonton, Alberta:  RPG programmers are a dime a dozen.

I don't know what the VB/RPG perm rates are in the US but here is a
breakdown of NZ rates
With BCS Degree or Equiv.
year 1: N.Z.$35,000  (US $14,000)  VB, RPG
year 2: N.Z.$45,000 (US $18,000)   VB,RPG
year 3: N.Z.$52,000 (US $20,800)  VB,SQL Server,RPG

senior VB,RPG
Year 4 - 7 N.Z.$60,000 - $80,000 (US $24,000--$32,000) For Contract
Work add 50% VB,SQL Server,RPG
Year 7 > RPG- max perm lid around $75,000
Year 7 > Solution Architect N.Z. $120,000 (US $48,000) VB,SQL Server

Putting things in perspective a lawyer in N.Z. would earn double these
figures, a Doctor/Dentist three times these figures.
NZ/Au rates are low because the cost of living is much
lower than the US.The rates I have quoted reflect
a nice 3-4 bedroom house/good location  are costs around NZ $400,000,
AU $500,000.I would say in the US you would
be looking at double that figure.
European ECC rates seem to be double the US rates againI

Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Taylor" <jtaylor@rpg2java.com>
To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: The economy and developers


> Edmonton, Alberta:  RPG programmers are a dime a dozen.
>
>
> John Taylor
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Rehm" <javadisciple@earthlink.net>
> To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 10:02
> Subject: Re: The economy and developers
>
>
> > I'm in the Sacramento area and it has seen big changes over the last few
> > years. There have been a lot of midrange shops close down and move out
of
> > the area, and this area has experienced a glut of AS/400 programmers.
> There
> > still seems to be plenty of jobs on Dice, but I know this area doesn't
see
> > many of them.
> >
> > Around here, there is a lot of Java work, scarce RPG.
> >
>
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