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  • Subject: Re: no Java in XP Windows
  • From: thomas@xxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: 20 Jul 2001 17:58:28 -0700

John:

On Thu, 19 July 2001, "John Taylor" wrote:

> > On Wed, 18 July 2001, "Tom Liotta" wrote:
> >
> > I think Chris handled the response well enough, so I'll ask a question in
> > the opposite direction. How does keeping them together benefit the
> industry?
> > I believe that for every answer to this, there's a parallel harm against
> > competing developers that can be demonstrated. So why should anyone want
> > them together?
> >
> 
> 
> Think of it this way: you have *one* shot at an effective remedy. Now, do
> you try to implement a solution that addresses the problem, or do you simply
> break the company up because it seems like it won't make the situation any
> worse than it already is?

I don't think that the breakup is THE remedy; it's only one of the remedies. 
This particular remedy addresses the situation where MS could use undocumented 
(or correctly documented) interfaces to give their applications group unfair 
competitive advantage.

Other remedies are included, mostly changes to business practices such as 
requiring PC vendors to unfairly promote MS products or risk losing contracts.

The breakup focuses on the OS<==>App problem and pretty much only resolves that 
single problem area. Although it certainly would be possible for collusion, 
etc., to continue, a couple elements would make that difficult.

First, I've understood that ownership would not continue as it has. Gates, for 
example, could choose which side he wanted to continue with and would sell his 
ownership (shares) of the other. I believe this would be true in most major 
owner cases. And I imagine there'd be restrictions for some years to come on 
how many shares any of them could buy in the other company.

Second, keeping such collusion activity secret would be significantly more 
difficult. Not only could a simple disgruntled employee in either company blow 
the whistle any time, but records of intercompany phone calls, e-mails, 
meetings, etc., would be duplicated on two different systems, probably required 
to pass through intermediate channels, etc. An independent e-mail server 
anywhere between them could be sufficient for e-mail records for example.

You can bet that the FTC, the SEC and who knows what other agencies would be 
running checks for years as part of the settlement. The document(s?) that would 
eventually outline all the specfics would likely run to 100s or 1000s of pages. 
It wouldn't be a simple case of move some employees to another building and 
nobody will ever check.

In any case, I'm almost certain the breakup was a remedy for specific 
transgressions, not THE single remedy for all. It's just the one that got all 
the news.

Tom Liotta


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