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IBM did not give me an official response.  I don't think that they thought
it through.

In fairness to IBM, they could not have tied the passwords in DST/SST to
the system values, and system values are a part of OS/400, and they are not
available when entering DST from a manual IPL.

Al

Al Barsa, Jr.
Barsa Consulting Group, LLC

400>390

914-251-1234
914-251-9406 fax

http://www.barsaconsulting.com
http://www.taatool.com





                                                                                
                                         
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Al - any response from ibm as to why they did it this way?
jim

----- Original Message -----
From: <barsa@barsaconsulting.com>
To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: V5R1 DST passwords


>
> From my perspective, this should be fully under the owner's control, as
it
> is in OS/400.
>
> Al
>
> Al Barsa, Jr.
> Barsa Consulting Group, LLC
>
> 400>390
>
> 914-251-1234
> 914-251-9406 fax
>
> http://www.barsaconsulting.com
> http://www.taatool.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>                     "Jim Franz"
>                     <franz400@triad.rr.        To:
<MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
>                     com>                       cc:
>                     Sent by:                   Subject:     Re: V5R1 DST
passwords
>                     owner-midrange-l@mi
>                     drange.com
>
>
>                     07/08/01 11:21 AM
>                     Please respond to
>                     MIDRANGE-L
>
>
>
>
>
>
> How can we participate in this new age of computing with
> factory passwords & non-expiring passwords. I have and
> continue to try and educate network techs on the danger of
> any default or well-known passwords. We continue to make
> fun of Microcrash's weekly list Cert advisories (as well as
> Linux). There is no defense for factory passwords. We claim
> the be more secure than any other business server, out of the
> box. Can't have it both ways.
> jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <barsa@barsaconsulting.com>
> To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 10:36 AM
> Subject: RE: V5R1 DST passwords
>
>
> >
> > To make matters worse, you password has to be different from the last 4
> > passwords.
> >
> > Al
> >
> > Al Barsa, Jr.
> > Barsa Consulting Group, LLC
> >
> > 400>390
> >
> > 914-251-1234
> > 914-251-9406 fax
> >
> > http://www.barsaconsulting.com
> > http://www.taatool.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                     "Hall, Philip"
> >                     <phall@spss.com>           To:
> "'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com'" <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
> >                     Sent by:                   cc:
> >                     owner-midrange-l@mi        Subject:     RE: V5R1
DST
> passwords
> >                     drange.com
> >
> >
> >                     07/07/01 11:49 PM
>
> >                     Please respond to
> >                     MIDRANGE-L
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > They've added the CHGDSTPWD command to reset DST QSECOFR to
> > > QSECOFR. Now
> > > here's the kicker - the password for DST is case sensitive
> > > (as I forgot
> > > today, typing in qsecofr time and time again when only
> > > QSECOFR will work).
> > >  You then need to change the password, but it seems that this
> > > follows its
> > > own rules - even if QPWDRQDDIF is set to 0, you can't
> > > duplicate an old
> > > password for the DST profile.
> > >
> > > So pretty easily, DST password management can become an issue
> > > - especially
> > > since you may not be going into SST that often.
> >
> > If I remember correctly, the passwords also auto expire after 180 days,
> to
> > give you even more of a potential headache...
> >
> > --phil
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