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  • Subject: RE: NT vs AS/400
  • From: "jt" <jt@xxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 23:32:51 -0400
  • Importance: Normal

Jim,

29,100

jt


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
[mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Jim Franz
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 10:56 AM
To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
Subject: Re: NT vs AS/400


all the more reason to crank up the iNation.
I forget the last figure-10 or 20,000 signed up
it has possibilities...
jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Taylor" <john.taylor@telusplanet.net>
To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: NT vs AS/400


>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Franz" <franz400@triad.rr.com>
>
> > John - we are not that far apart...
>
> Once we've found a way to put emotion aside and look at things
objectively,
> it's difficult to *avoid* reaching a consensus.
>
> > In the pricing model, like any other manufacturer, you look at
investment
> to
> > design & build, versus expected sales and calc a price. I expect to pay
> more
> > for a niche product like the iSeries versus the pSeries. Not looking at
> the
>
> There is a difference between paying a premium, and price gouging.
AS/400's
> have never been cheap, but the situation has reached a point where
companies
> are being driven off of the platform.
>
> > Bob Tipton's been a great voice, but not the only one.
>
> There's grumbling in the rank and file, but who's bringing the issues into
> the limelight? Bob's position as a columnist and public speaker made him a
> bit harder to ignore. Who's out there now asking Buell Duncan the hard
> questions? The interviews that I've read sound like they've been scripted
by
> the IBM PR department. The same old generalized questions, resulting in
the
> same old tired rhetoric.
>
> The demise of the platform troubles me, but it's a possibility (rather, a
> probability) that I've accepted. However, what troubles me the most is the
> manner in which it's being carried out. Loyal customers like you, I, and
> others on this list are being hung out to dry in the process. I think we
> deserve better than that, and it's unfortunate that we don't have an
> advocate lobbying on our behalf to make the transition less disruptive.
>
> No one is going to change IBM's mind about the fate of OS/400; chances are
> that any decisions relevent to that were made years ago. What we need now
is
> a way to ensure that IBM offers us more favourable terms, regardless of
what
> their ultimate goals might be. This means things like softening the blow
of
> interactive feature charges, and pressing them for better tools and
> education. Remember, it's the squeaky wheel that get's the grease, and the
> AS/400 community isn't making much noise.
>
>
> John Taylor
> Canada
>
>
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