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Jim, 29,100 jt -----Original Message----- From: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com [mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Jim Franz Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 10:56 AM To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com Subject: Re: NT vs AS/400 all the more reason to crank up the iNation. I forget the last figure-10 or 20,000 signed up it has possibilities... jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Taylor" <john.taylor@telusplanet.net> To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com> Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 9:23 PM Subject: Re: NT vs AS/400 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Franz" <franz400@triad.rr.com> > > > John - we are not that far apart... > > Once we've found a way to put emotion aside and look at things objectively, > it's difficult to *avoid* reaching a consensus. > > > In the pricing model, like any other manufacturer, you look at investment > to > > design & build, versus expected sales and calc a price. I expect to pay > more > > for a niche product like the iSeries versus the pSeries. Not looking at > the > > There is a difference between paying a premium, and price gouging. AS/400's > have never been cheap, but the situation has reached a point where companies > are being driven off of the platform. > > > Bob Tipton's been a great voice, but not the only one. > > There's grumbling in the rank and file, but who's bringing the issues into > the limelight? Bob's position as a columnist and public speaker made him a > bit harder to ignore. Who's out there now asking Buell Duncan the hard > questions? The interviews that I've read sound like they've been scripted by > the IBM PR department. The same old generalized questions, resulting in the > same old tired rhetoric. > > The demise of the platform troubles me, but it's a possibility (rather, a > probability) that I've accepted. However, what troubles me the most is the > manner in which it's being carried out. Loyal customers like you, I, and > others on this list are being hung out to dry in the process. I think we > deserve better than that, and it's unfortunate that we don't have an > advocate lobbying on our behalf to make the transition less disruptive. > > No one is going to change IBM's mind about the fate of OS/400; chances are > that any decisions relevent to that were made years ago. What we need now is > a way to ensure that IBM offers us more favourable terms, regardless of what > their ultimate goals might be. This means things like softening the blow of > interactive feature charges, and pressing them for better tools and > education. Remember, it's the squeaky wheel that get's the grease, and the > AS/400 community isn't making much noise. > > > John Taylor > Canada > > > +--- > | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! > | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. > | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. > | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. > | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com > +--- +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +--- +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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