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There are two problems & we have had them for decades. 1. People go home in the evening & they leave their work stations signed on in the middle of programs. We need to kick them off to do backup. Sometimes they are in middle of some update program. 2. People have multiple sessions. They get interrupted. They loose track of the fact they have other sessions active. It is quitting time. They sign off the session in front of them. They do not check status of other sessions. They turn off their device. A variation on this is people connected via PC with a PC printer emulating 400 printer. Correct end procedure is to STOP the printer, then bye the PC. No one does it. I see no point in trying to train them - I just ignore the 400 error messages. Now we do have sessions ending abnormally because of a PC problem, but the vast majority of our abnormal terminations are due to people who cannot learn how to properly end their work station when they are done for the day & my main concern is not the spike in poor performance for the good workers who are anxious to check their work before they leave, but more in the damage to data bases when a program in middle of updating our files is trashed because the work station was powered off in the middle of it. Our solutions, to try to reduce rate of incidents. When people ask why their data is messed up, I am sure to include this scenario in my list of possibilities, which means that some supervisors cut down on it among their people for about a week. Friday afternoon about 1 hour before day end there is a scheduled message to all users currently signed on, reminding them that there is no need to leave their equipment consuming electricity all weekend & please check all sessions to sign-off screen before power off. This message is periodically rephrased . Management seems to be interested in the electricity consumption topic, particularly after we came in after a 4 day weekend to find half the PCs & twinax devices in the company powered up. The question has come up if there is some way to remotely pull the plug at day end ... I do not think this is doable on an individual work station basis, but it might be a reverse application of a LAP (local area power). I personally believe that the power draw of the system printer is perhaps where we might next kill the power on weekends. Several decades ago when this sort of problem started happening on hardware before the AS/400 & before S/38 or S/36 had been invented, I started suggesting to the manufacturers of the display stations that some time it might be nice if they could include a NUMBER OF SESSIONS ACTIVE icon that is easy for users to comprehend. Then we could try to train them that they need to take that digit down to zero before powering off their display station. Such a number would also remind them that there are other sessions other than the one currently shown. I believe that wherever the configuration data is stored would be a starting point for making this doable. MacWheel99@aol.com (Alister Wm Macintyre) (Al Mac) AS/400 Data Manager & Programmer for BPCS 405 CD Rel-02 mixed mode (twinax interactive & batch) @ http://www.cen-elec.com Central Industries of Indiana--->Quality manufacturer of wire harnesses and electrical sub-assemblies - fax # 812-424-6838 +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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