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  • Subject: RE: HTTP Server's jobs for CGI applications
  • From: "Stone, Brad V (TC)" <bvstone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 14:37:59 -0500

> We're talking two different things:  JavaScript and Cookies.

Some programmers only use Javascript for cookies (reading/writing, etc..),
so I don't believe we are.

> 
> >> With cookies enabled, companies can and do track your web browsing
> >> behavior.
> >Again, the can without them too.  You agree to that,
> 
> Did I ?!?

And I quote:
"Brad wrote:
>>  The banner ad company knows
>> which web page requested the banner ad (using the HTTP_REFERER
>> variable).
>
>You can get this CGI.  Don't need Javascript.

Agreed, for this scenario."

> Certainly, we seem to disagree on the need to be on the
> lookout for threats to our personal privacy and liberty.
> Strangely enough, Europeans seem to be much more concerned
> with the issue than Americans!
> 
> I, for one, am not willing to trade my privacy for the
> convenience offered by cookies.

Well, it seems we disagree on how important it is if someone finds out if I
have an account on deja.com, yahoo, etc.  No one said the web was 100%
secure, but I feel more comfortable giving my credit card number over a SSL
connection on the net than giving it to the waiter at a restaurant to take
into the back room for 10 minutes.

If you're that worried about personal privacy and liberty, you could exhaust
your energy towards a lot better causes that cookie tracking on the net,
that's for sure.

> 
> >Tell that to the Flash developers.  Javascript is old news 
> for pizzaz and
> >eye candy.
> 
> Flash is definitely "eye candy".  Fortunately, there are
> very few sites worth visiting that use it.  And as far
> as I can tell, I don't know of any sites that depend on
> it for navigation.

I hate to say this, but this shows a slight bit of ignorance.  A lot of
pages use flash for nagivation bars.

> >I'd like to run it though it as well to see if you practice what you
> preach.
> >:)
> 
> Be my guest!  The ISP I use for home access offers 20M of
> web space for its dial-up accounts.  I have 13M full at
> the moment with literally hundreds of HTML files.  (I
> haven't counted them lately.)  ALL of them validate as
> proper "XHTML 1.0 Transitional".

Where's the URL?  And only post it if you're doing some real web stuff, not
just showing pictures of your dog and truck and listing your certifications,
etc.  e-commerce requires interaction.

Brad
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