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In the middle 80s, I ran into a guy named Bill Perkins. Bill had a degree in psychology from Penn State, I think. He got a job as a programmer working on the 38. Although he was a very good programmer, he professed that he didn't like to write programs or DDS. So he built a data dictionary and a simple application generator called DBWriter. Bill spent a lot of hours working on his tools and wrote code generation tools all the time. I frequently disagreed with the code that he created but I worked with Bill for 3 years and I think that both Bill and his idea were genius. In 1990, I went to work at JDEdwards. At that time, they were shipping release A4.3 and just releasing A5.1. Before the entire development group started to work on the new release, the "heavy tech" group (that was the real name) made created the basis for the new release. They would create new pristine data libraries, copy source libraries for the current release into source libraries for the new release, update some cross-release tools like COPY, make all the database changes, and run several slimers. A slimer is a code modifying program that makes consistent changes to every program - it treats DDS and RPG source as data. I seem to remember that one of the A5 slimers fixed up some grotesque features of the on-line help system. In A6, one of the most memorable slimers inserted the code necessary to handle double byte character in character fields. There were several slimers for each release. After the source was slimed, we did a global compile then turned over the compile listings and the new source library to the application developers. They reviewed the compile listings for errors, get everything to compile, then started to add the new application functionality that everyone had agreed on. I assume that all product development groups do something similar. Is any of this helpful? Richard Jackson mailto:richardjackson@richardjackson.net www.richardjacksonltd.com Voice: 1 (303) 808-8058 Fax: 1 (303) 663-4325 -----Original Message----- From: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com [mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]On Behalf Of James W. Kilgore Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 11:52 PM To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com Subject: Re: DDS Support Richard, I stand corrected. My stint at compiler / interpreter writing is a bit dated and the only tools you had are those you made yourself. But that's where the "Programs -are- data." originated from and my belief that tools, any tools are worth the effort and more than return their investment. BTW, we love it when someone disagrees. That's how we all learn. Richard Jackson wrote: > > I'm new to this list so I hope that it is okay to disagree. If not please > tell me, I know how to be quiet too. > > Compiler writers use lots of tools and have for years. +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +--- +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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