• Subject: Re: Why not use VA/RPG
  • From: Jim Langston <jlangston@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 07:23:02 -0800
  • Organization: Conex Global Logistics Services, Inc.

Install shield can basically install any file anywhere onto a PC.
When you run install shield it asks you where you want to put
the files.  There is no reason you couldn't specify a network
drive to install them to, including AS/400 shared folders.

Regards,

Jim Langston

"Reger, Bill" wrote:

> Bob,
>
> Is it possible to use Install Shield to install Internet downloaded save
> files to the AS/400?
>
> William K. Reger
> Senior Project Manager
> Levitz Furniture Corporation
> Phone:  (561) 994-5114
> E-mail:  breger@levitz.com <mailto:breger@levitz.com>
>
>                 -----Original Message-----
>                 From:   Bob Crothers [mailto:bob@cstoneindy.com]
>                 Sent:   Wednesday, January 19, 2000 8:30 AM
>                 To:     MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
>                 Subject:        RE: Why not use VA/RPG
>
>                 Booth,
>
>                 I do not know anything about what VARPG does for installs.
> However, I do
>                 know about installs in the PC world.  Check out Install
> Shield Express
>                 (http://www.installshield.com/express/ ).  It is very easy
> to use, no
>                 "coding" involved, just fill out some forms and you have a
> "standard"
>                 install shield install (which most commercial packages use
> these days) and
>                 even an un-install.  And it will generate the autorun for cd
> based installs.
>
>                 For pure disk based or email based installs, we use a
> combination of a
>                 WinZip generated self extracting zip file & Install Shield.
> With the WinZip
>                 self extractor, you can tell it to automatically unzip when
> executed and run
>                 a program (setup.exe).  Works pretty good.
>
>                 If you download our Fax Server/401 demo at
> www.faxserver401.com/download.htm
>                 , you can see an example of how this all works.
>
>                 Bob
>
>                 -----Original Message-----
>                 From: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
> [mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]On
>                 Behalf Of boothm@earth.Goddard.edu
>                 Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 5:59 PM
>                 To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
>                 Subject: Re: Why not use VA/RPG
>
>                 I burned a CD with the version as I wanted it installed and
> circulated the
>                 CD.  It had autorun and all, but my experience is mid-range,
> not PC so it
>                 was hard for me.  It worked but now I want to experiment
> with an install
>                 on the LAN.  I think that'll work but of course those
> working off the net
>                 or off dial-up can't use that choice.  Silent install is
> supposed to work
>                 but I never could get it to actually work correctly.  My
> feeling is that
>                 VARPG is good for RPG programmers wanting to produce some
> snazzy stuff.
>                 But they have to know the PC world or have friends there in
> order to get
>                 the packages properly installed.
>                 _______________________
>                 Booth Martin
>                 boothm@earth.goddard.edu
>                 http://www.spy.net/~booth
>                 _______________________
>
>                 "Scott P. Johnson" <sjohnson@highsmith.com>
>                 Sent by: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
>                 01/18/2000 08:29 AM
>                 Please respond to MIDRANGE-L
>
>                         To:     MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
>                         cc:
>                         Subject:        Re: Why not use VA/RPG
>
>                 This is the way I am doing updates:
>
>                 You have the normal Install dirs for first time installs.
>                 Like normal software these can lag a 'point version' or so.
>                 So in other words they do not get updated all the time.
>                 Separately you have Update dirs.  These are where the real
>                 updates come from.  Basically you make your changes in
> VARPG,
>                 test, and then copy what is in the RT_Win32 dir to the
> Update
>                 dir.  The update is now available to the general public.
>
>                 Then there is the question of how to get the update to the
>                 user.  If you have done LAN installs, you can just copy the
>                 updated files into the LAN dirs of the app.  I do this on
>                 the big app we have.  On a smaller locally installed app,
>                 I am using a simple batch file that is manually kicked off.
>                 It checks time stamps on the files and only copies what has
>                 been updated.
>
>                 I am in the process of trying to figure out a way to
> automate
>                 this whole procedure.  I have a couple of ideas, but nothing
>                 sound yet.
>
>                 As a side note, when a new version of VARPG comes out, I
>                 usually spend some time doing re-installs to get the latest
>                 version of the VARPG runtime.  I think this is something
> that
>                 cannot really be gotten around.
>                 --
>                 ------------------------------------------------------
>                 Scott P. Johnson
>                 Microcomputer Development Specialist
>                 IBM Certified Specialist - AS/400 RPG Programmer
>                 Highsmith Inc.
>                 W5527 Hwy 106, PO BOX 800
>                 Fort Atkinson, WI 53538-0800
>                 TEL:  920-563-9571                FAX:  920-563-7395
>                 sjohnson@highsmith.com
>                 www.highsmith.com
>                 ------------------------------------------------------
>                 > Not sure I really understand. Why wouldn't you just put
> some kind of
>                 > current version checker in the program (load current
> version in a
>                 > dataarea on the AS/400 and check against a constant in the
> program).
>                 >
>                 >  You know, I bet that would work.  A good idea.  Scott
> Johnson did
>                 > something like that I think. I tried it but couldn't
> figure out how to
>                 > upgrade to the next version all at once everywhere, on
> every PC.
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