• Subject: RE: IBM Certifications
  • From: Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 9:09:55 -0500

And then after you hire him you hear questions from John like:
'What is this SETLL opcode?'
'RPG has lousy string manipulation, you have to use arrays just to join two 
strings.'
'What does this C/EXEC SQL statement do?'
'Hey, this source is corrupted.  The op codes are moved over.'
'I think SEU has a bug, it will only let me use 1 indicator on the left in the 
calc specs 
in this member'.

Certification may help see if the person can stay current.  People can have 
lots of 
experience, and little current knowledge.





bvstone@taylorcorp.com on 10/25/99 06:38:02 PM
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Subject:        RE: IBM Certifications

Certification says that you have the willingness to take a certification
exam because one of two things:

1.  You know you are good, and want to prove it to yourself and others with
a piece of paper instead of/in addition to previous work experience,
references, etc...
2.  You are not sure of your abilities and want others to think you know
what you're doing.

Heads or tails.  You choose. 

Scenario.  You have two resumes in front of you.  Joe is certified in RPG
and Operations, John in not.  Joe has little experience being a night
operator according to his resume.  John has 8 years experience with
Operations, Programming, and even a dash of Net.Data and CGI programming,
the only evidence of which is it is on his resume.  

You can pick one, only one, and they will come work for you forever.  Whom
do you choose?  
Why?  
Would you have paid the other candidate the same if your decision was
different?  
Why or why not?
And finally, did you make the right choice?

Bradley V. Stone
BVS/Tools
http://www.bvstools.com





> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lori Hainey [mailto:lhainey@hbs-inc.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 3:21 PM
> To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> Subject: Re: IBM Certifications
> 
> 
> Speaking for our company - I know we would highly value 
> someone with IBM
> certification as a candidate for employment.
> 
> James_Turnbull@kaz.com.au wrote:
> 
> > I would disagree.  I think they are not well known yet (at 
> least not as well as
> > a CNE or MSCE) but not useless.  Also if you are a business 
> partner or a
> > reseller then your staff will require certain minimum 
> certifications - otherwise
> > you cannot hold BP or RS status.
> >
> > James Turnbull
> >
> > Don <dr2@cssas400.com> on 24/10/99 23:12:19
> >
> > Please respond to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> >
> > To:   Mauricio Della-Quercia <mauriciodq@hotmail.com>
> > cc:   MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com (bcc: James Turnbull/Sydney/KAZ/AU)
> > Subject:  Re: IBM Certifications
> >
> > the general concensus I'm hearing is that they're about useless....
> >
> > Which is unfortunate...
> >
> > On Wed, 20 Oct 1999, Mauricio Della-Quercia wrote:
> >
> > > Hi:
> > >
> > > I am considering taking one of IBM's certification exams 
> and wanted to know
> > > what the general concensus was on getting certified, and 
> for those who
> > > already have it, whether or not it has proved to be of 
> help with regard to
> > > employment.
> > >
> > > My main objectives are career development and to better 
> sell myself as an
> > > Application Developer.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > _______________________________________
> > > Mauricio Della-Quercia
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> > > LegendWare Systems (AS400 Consulting)
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