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>>> DAsmussen <DAsmussen@aol.com> 04/05/98 08:38pm >>> <snip> > If you don't _really_ want to change, _DON'T_ make other people > work their tails off for you only to give the Emily Latella > response of "Oh, that's quite different -- never mind". > If you _THINK_ you want to change, establish metrics up front as > to what sort of increase you are looking for, and what sort of > company you want to work for. DO NOT apply for jobs that you > don't want in the first place, and DO NOT say you want one thing > and then decide you want something else. <snip> Then, for the sake of my own curiosity, I have an "ethics" question: how does one with a comparatively satisfactory job keep one's "ear to the ground" so to speak, looking for that elusive Nirvana-like job without making someone like you "work their tail off" only to get a wet noodle response? Let me illustrate (preface to keep post somewhat w/in list guidelines: I AM NOT TROLLING FOR A JOB HERE! I'm merely using a personal example to illustrate why I ask a specific question): My wife is German, her entire family lives over there. Naturally, we'd like to get to see them occasionally, but finances preclude doing so more than every 3-4 years. Oh well, that's life. But, that means a very appealing aspect of any employment opportunity for me personally would be the requirement for occasional business trips to Europe in general, Germany in particular (rack up frequent flyer miles, write off family vacations, etc.) Therefore, when the bi-weekly headhunter call comes to my desk, I have a pat response: "I am not looking to move, I'm pretty happy where I am. However, these specific things would appeal to me: <list off 4-5 very specific things, including international travel but pointedly not including salary>. Conclusion: if you've got a position w/3-4 of these, let's talk." Inevitably, I get calls back w/positions essentially equivalent to what I'm doing now, just more (sometimes lots more) money, at which point they're turned down. Summary: I'm sure there are recruiters out there who feel much the same way about me that Dean does towards his contractor, e.g. "What the heck does this guy want - I'm offering X, Y, and Z!" I'm always interested in something better, but I'm happy enough that it's got to be really really better. Am I taking unfair advantage if I describe my ideal job, then turn Joe recruiter down when he comes w/something that just doesn't, in MY book, measure up to what I want, even if, in HIS book, it does? Personally, I don't think so - I thought that's what recruiters did, root about for stuff I can't/won't find using sources to which they (presumably) have access but I do not...but what sayeth the list? Scott Cornell Mercy Information Systems +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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