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In a message dated 04/02/1998 8:02:05 AM Central Standard Time, rbarr@one.net writes: << I'm new to the list and just wondered how IBM certification is viewed in your company. Is it valued? Is it expected of all programmers? Does anyone even notice? Does it impact salary? Do you find it personally helpful? I'd be very interested in hearing from you on this. (I ask because I was a bit surprised to learn that it doesn't really make much difference in the company I work for.) Regards, Regan Barr General Revenue Corporation Rbarr@one.net >> Regan - I find that certifications do not matter for the majority of my clients. Most managers respect ability, and really don't pay attention too much to degrees and certifications. There are, however, some exceptions. These are primarily: 1. Solution providers/consulting companies are often contractually obligated to have employees on site with minimum skill levels and certs are one of the easier ways to do this. Example - I have a client who is required to have two CNE's on call 24 hours a day. Similarly, hospitals and other clients with very high levels of security and required uptime are more likely to invest heavily in training requirements for their employees. 2. Depends on the corporate culture, plant size, etc. A Japanese or German owned company (in my experience) is far more likely to require certifications and degrees for their employees. A lumber processing plant with an S/36 is less likely to require it... >From what I see, it seems rare that general IBM certifications impact salaries appreciably. Employees are more often rewarded for networking certs such as MSCE, MCNE, etc. However, high level certifications will often make the difference on candidate selection (but not salary level) when it comes time for a company to make a hire. One thing I have noticed recently is that more and more companies are dangling training packages as a hiring incentive. The IBM "passport" program is getting to be popular and can be worth thousands to a candidate. My problem is getting candidates to understand this value to them further in their career...I had a client recently offer a candidate a 10% raise (no relocation required) and an offer to send her to "official JD Edwards" school. She would have been able to double her salary within two years but she turned the position down because she did not understand the value of the certification - she felt that a 10% raise was not worth her making a move. Oh well.... David Brown Snelling Search, Huntsville AL 800-239-1410 x2205 haveajob@aol.com +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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