I didn't say that the QHST* files could not be restored with the 
     RSTOBJ command;  Al said that.  My error was assuming from my SAVSYS 
     OUTPUT(*PRINT) that the SAVSYS command doesn't save them when, in 
     fact, it does.  In that regard Al was right and I was wrong.
     
     Guy Murphy         University of Illinois - UDIS
                        217-333-8670
                        murphyfa@uiuc.edu
     
     
     
     
     
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Subject: Re: Re[2]: Restoring QHST* files.
Author:  <DennisLovelady@kemet.com (Dennis Lovelady)> at INTERNET 
Date:    10/14/97 1:17 PM
     
     
Hi, Guy:
     
I really don't follow your logic here... please explain:
     
To: MIDRANGE-L <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com> @ INTERNET 
cc:  
Subject: Re[2]: Restoring QHST* files.
     
     
>    Mr. Barsa is indeed correct.  When I do a SAVSYS, I use the *PRINT 
>  output option.  Nothing in that report looks like a QHST* file.  
>  However a DSPTAP with a *SAVRST shows the QHST* files.
     
Since you say that the files can be seen in *SAVRST format from a DSPTAP, 
why does it follow that you cannot restore them using RSTOBJ?  To me, it 
indicates that you can.  It is true that SAVSYS OUTPUT(*PRINT) does not 
print all of the information that SAVLIB OUTPUT(*PRINT) or SAVOBJ 
OUTPUT(*PRINT) does; however, that doesn't mean that the objects aren't 
saved.  In fact, if they weren't, how would the system _ever_ be brought 
back in the event that you had to use those tapes?  SAVSYS _does_ in fact 
save all of the objects from the QSYS library, in *SAVRST format, and they 
_can_ in fact be restored via good ole RSTOBJ.
     
There was a period of time in the past where we needed to scan through all 
of the QHST* files for a period of 6 months (looking for some particular 
pattern which [by the way] we were able to find).  We did this by 
restoring all of the QHST* files from the SAVSYS tapes from that time 
period.  (At this site, a SAVSYS is done weekly; QHST* files are kept 10 
days.  That way, we don't miss any of them.  In an environment where 
SAVSYS frequency is greater than QHST* purge frequency, I would agree that 
it is a good idea to SAVOBJ OBJ(QHST*)... on a regular basis.)
     
I have had occassion to restore QSYS commands and files that were 
accidentally deleted or changed in the QSYS library.  If that ever happens 
to you, you will be very happy to know that it does _NOT_ take an OS reload 
to get them back.
     
Pardon me for stepping up to my soapbox.  It's just that when someone 
tells me "you can't" do something I have done many times, it makes my 
blood boil.
     
     
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