i know of one cobol insurance firm up north that has had five offers rejected these last sixty days

Frank - statements like this don't really tell us anything.... it could have been 5 offers for a
senior analyst @ 30k a year (a joke) so they can then tell their Congressman
to up the H1B limits... or it could be legitimate offers, but your statement does not clarify.

My daughter (a new college grad in a non-computer field) has been telling me for years that
prgramming students (she hangs with semi hacker wannabes) were switching majors because
their own professors are advocating the outsourcing of "code writing" and have these new
courses like "managing IT in a globalized world...".

For my own work, I think my last "no work anywhere" day was a recession during Reagan's
administration (about 30 days). It's all been consulting, and each job is measured in years, although
many started as xx months. I never saw any benefit in "hopping" around, in fact made it a point
not to hire them. Recruiters may be having a tough time, but lots of programmers are not.
For what purpose would a happy programmer leave a stable job??? To risk your financial
health for 10k more??
I do see that corporate training has taken a nose dive, and that is just short sighted management,
and if I were an employee - I'd leave for that....
jim franz

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well dave, the five year "gut " of the i/t industry from 01-06 has scared enough "stable" i/t workers, almost to the point that recruiters are having difficulty in getting "employed" folks to change, and yet there are still thousands sitting at home trying to get back into i/t and to no avail.

i already see the shortage of as400 developers , most of my placements are taking three/four months to fill. the old days of hearing the "ninety day probation" period to see if both the employer/employee like each other may be long over, cause i'm finding the "employed employee "
will no long take that risk to see if each are happy with the other. mainly because of the mass layoff for such a long time So , with very few new "trainees " brought in these last five years,
things are going to get real interesting....probably more ammo for clients to "outsource"
i see company ads in the papers/job boards longer and longer now...lots of frustration out there now...

i know of one cobol insurance firm up north that has had five offers rejected these last sixty days

"As the world turns...........in the I/T industry,,,

regards, frank thomas

best regards,
frank thomas
dir/mis recruiting
hms company
serving the mis industry thirty five years
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