Re: Bad reference

If the "bad" reference is, in fact, a "factual" reference then it is not 
slander.  I am not a lawyer but do know a few things about my profession.  

If someone lies about you and that lie has an adverse affect then I'm sure you 
would have a viable issue.

Thanks,
Jerry Albright
Professional Search Group, Inc.
3493 N 750 E
Avilla, IN  46710
888-293-9249
jerry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.profsearchgroup.com

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Alex Montalvo 
  To: Jerry Albright ; MIDRANGE-JOBS@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 4:32 PM
  Subject: Re: Bad reference


  Yes it is. It's called slander. He had worked for them before the job he has 
now... mine. When I first lost my job with the company he is now, he was the 
catalyst. He whined about the MIS manager day in day out till I got fed up and 
we collectively went to the boss to report him. I got tossed he stayed now 
this. Coincidence, I think not.   
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Jerry Albright 
    To: Michael Ryan ; rob@xxxxxxxxx ; Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 4:07 
PM
    Subject: Bad reference


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    I'll chime in here.  As a recruiter I am involved with reference/background 
    checks from time to time.

    If a client really wants to know about someone - I'll find my own source of 
    information.  Some times I'll call the references listed on the resume if 
    the client just wants to go through the motions.  Occasionally they will 
ask 
    me to do a little "extra" digging - detective work in a sense.  And for the 
    times I am hiring someone as a contractor - you can be I'll do my own 
    research beyond the minimum.

    Giving a bad reference is not illegal by the way as far as I know.

    Thanks,
    Jerry Albright
    Professional Search Group, Inc.
    3493 N 750 E
    Avilla, IN  46710
    888-293-9249
    jerry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    www.profsearchgroup.com



    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "Michael Ryan" <michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
    To: <rob@xxxxxxxxx>; <MIDRANGE-JOBS@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
    Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 3:56 PM
    Subject: Re: Bad reference


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    > I can't imagine not asking someone if they would be a reference before I 
    > use
    > them. And when I ask them, I would ask them their opinion. If they tell me
    > one thing and a prospective employer  something else, then I'm a bad judge
    > of character.
    >
    > On 2/1/06 01:58 PM, "rob@xxxxxxxxx" <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
    >
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    >>
    >> In this litiguous society some people might take action.  I tend, 
    >> instead,
    >> to count it as one of God's many blessings.  Now you know not to use this
    >> ex coworker as a reference.
    >>
    >> Now, can you find out what was said about you?  And make sure that you
    >> tell the interviewer thank you for the honesty first.  When you find out
    >> what was said take a deep look inside and decide if you can use that
    >> information to better yourself.  And any falsehoods short of them saying
    >> you had inappropriate actions with their German Shepherd I'd let go.
    >>
    >> Rob Berendt
    >
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