Greg,

Your point is well taken, honestly I am disappointed that Mapics hasn't 
done a better job at eliminating their "old" architecture for a more 
interactive environment than their current system.  Consider the fact that 
running the transaction register for IM on batches doesn't do much more 
than generate a report since the transactions have already posted.  I 
would happily do without the process altogether.

Even if we moved to save while active we would still need to kick the 
active users to get MRP to regen since shipping and purchasing cause 
conflicts (we have a shipping department working 24x5 or 24x6).  If MRP 
regen was allowed we end up with conflicts for allocation audits.  Anyway 
you cut it there is a daily user impact to use the tools that Mapics 
provides and we struggle to make the system operate.  (Infor are you 
listening??  We live in a 24x7 world stop expecting a dedicated system for 
any process!)

You mention in a post that at the time of your backup you generally don't 
have anybody in your system--at the time of this writing and less hour 
before backup--I have 14 stations processing, six of which are shipping at 
two different facilities which would conflict with MRP.  Two are doing 
inventory transactions that would result in a conflicts on the location 
audit.  Sometimes it is better just to plan to kick everybody off from 
12-12:30 to allow the system to process the jobs that will conflict 
otherwise.

Backup is only one part of the problem which we have a little control 
over,
Marc Rohde
IT Manager
Pentair Filtration, Inc. & Everpure, LLC

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Am I the only one on this list who is wondering why anyone should care
about active batches in this day and age?   When Save While Active came
out about 8-10 years ago, I stopped using the archaic MAPICS backup and
simple saved the appropriate libraries using SWA.  There has never been
any problem doing it that way. I know the MAPICS backup does a couple of
insignificant household cleaning choirs so what. 

And wacking someone's batch into another status with a quick and dirty
program -- well isn't that a bit extreme?   Or how about sending them a
break message giving them 10 minutes to get out.  Then terminate their
sessions.   Ya - let's do that too.  NO better yet let's end the QINTER
subsystem.    The users really love it when you mess with them.

Just my opinion,
Greg
 

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[mailto:mapics-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Williams
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 12:56 PM
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Subject: Re: [MAPICS-L] Programmatically closing inventory batches


Good questions.  Simply closing everything gives you a
good backup but questionable data.  I err on the side
of good data and rerun the backup the next evening
after resolving the questionable batchs.

--- Trudie Cook <Trudie.Cook@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

This is addressed to everyone who is
programmatically closing IM
batches.   What happens if someone is actively in a
batch?  What about
unapplied records?  What if the ujob was down and
none of the RM's
processed?  What else do you check before you change
the batch status to
a C? 


Thanks, 
   Trudie 


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Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 2:08 PM
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inventory batches


We have a program that does this it also generates a
report of which
batches it closed, works perfect with no problems on
R5 and R7. If you
want a copy of the RPG source let me know.

-Jimmy 

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Subject: [MAPICS-L] Programmatically closing
inventory batches

Every night we have an operator go through suspended
batches and close
them through the Mapics interface and DFU active
batches that are hung
to suspend them to allow them to be manually closed.
 What problems
would I face if I wrote a program to change the
batch status on all
suspended or "hung active" batches to closed? 
Following the change I
would run the transaction register as usual to get
the to finished
status.

Your feedback is appreciated,
Marc Rohde
IT Manager
Pentair Filtration, Inc. & Everpure, LLC

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