RE: To those vendors harvesting email addresses from this list...

Dan,

I am sorry to hear that someone on this list has abused their privilege.  I
work for one of the vendors who does understand that the purpose of the list
is to share ideas and learn from other's experiences.  Please do not lump
all of us together.  My presence here is to provide information about our
products to those people who may not have heard it otherwise (and assist
others with my own knowledge of Mapics and programming).  

I believe that there is a solution for everyone, many needs can be handled
without investing in software, others may be better off by acquiring an
application that solves the problem and pays for itself through time and
effort saved.  The worst you will get from me is a response to the list and
possibly a phone call (if your number is included) that follows up on a
specific question posed to the list - and quite often, not even that.

<sales mode on>
Momentum Utilities is the developer of Info WorkPlace, JacanaForms and
Jacana inTuator.  A suite of report writing, data extraction and
presentation, and electronic forms solutions.  Please contact me privately
off list if you are interested.
<\sales mode off>

(Sorry, I couldn't resist, it is my job <g>.)

Regards,
-Greg

Gregory Novak
Manager North American Technical Services
Momentum Utilities Pty Ltd
(630) 985-1736
gnovak@xxxxxxxxxx
www.jacana.com
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Bale [mailto:dbale@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 4:26 PM
To: mapics-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: To those vendors harvesting email addresses from this list...


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I have many *choice* words for people who harvest email addresses from this
list, send me spam, and then have the #(@$&* gall to call me on the phone.
In my case, I know that somebody is getting the phone number via the email
address domain; I guess the only safe way to communicate on the MAPICS list
is to use some anonymous web-based email address.

This is how I know two vendors, Manny Gorrity
[mannygorrity@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] and Susanne States
[sstates@xxxxxxxxxxxx] (S4i Systems, Inc.) are getting my name, email
address, and phone number from a harvester:  I just started in this position
two weeks ago and signed up to the MAPICS list at that time.  I have no
prior MAPICS experience.  I have made no other contacts specific to MAPICS.
Of course, they usually just deny knowing where they got my contact info
from; "got it from a contact list we purchase", sort of makes them less
culpable in their eyes, I guess.

So, let me be absolutely clear:  Any vendor that sends me unsolicited email,
depending on my mood, will probably be out of future consideration.  ANY
VENDOR THAT CALLS ME, UNSOLICITED, WILL GO ON MY PERMANENT BLACKLIST!  This
is the pinnacle of inconsideration and unprofessionalism.

Grrrrrrr.

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db