I agree with most of what has been said, the manuals are large, cumbersome
and hard to use for an inexperianced user - they are definitely not a
substitute for proper user training and education - they really are
reference manuals designed to guide a trained user - with the exception of
Chapter 2 in each manual, which should be mandatory reading for anyone
using that part of the system.

On the Logic manuals - I also moaned and groaned when Mapics withdrew them,
but having been forced to use the online Logic tools supplied in CAS, plus
the ERL models for COM and IFM, I don't really miss them anymore and am now
quite comfortable using these.

Regards

John Clayton
Senior Consultant
Powerlan Ltd
Melbourne, Australia




"Shaw, David" <dshaw@spartan.com>@midrange.com on 25/08/2000 06:15:46

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I agree pretty much with all of Dale's points.  The MAPICS manuals compare
very well against other ERP system manuals that I've seen.  This doesn't
mean that the MAPICS manuals are great, just that there are a fair number
of
packages with really poor docs.  (Heaven help anyone trying to make sense
of
the docs for INTEX, for example!)

Dave Shaw
MAPICS-L Moderator
Spartan International, Inc.
Spartanburg, SC

-----Original Message-----
From: Walker, Dale [mailto:DWalker@automaticproducts.com]

Personally, I would like to see the old logic manuals return.  They were
great tools to use while determining where/when to insert mods etc.
Overall, the manuals themselves aren't designed too bad.  If someone sits
down and tries to read them front-to-back they will go insane.  IMO,
chapter
2 is a good read because it highlights the features of the module.  This
material can be read in its entirety.  The rest of the manual is really
best
used as a reference tool only.  Accessing them via CD is handy.
Dale Walker
VP MIS
Gross-Given Mfg. Co. / Automatic Products Intn'l



-----Original Message-----
From: aldg [mailto:aldg@mail.rvi.net]
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 11:08 AM
To: MAPICS Mailing List
Cc: Gershen, Al; Gershen, Al
Subject: Your Views on the Mapics Manuals?


Hi Mapics ML:
I was at a meeting this morning at work and one of our bookkeepers who runs
the A/P Mapics module made the comment, "I don't understand anything when I
look in a Mapics manual."
Can you give me your opinion of the Mapics manuals in terms of:
1. How do you rate their general readability and understandability?
2. Do they usually meet your needs when you research a topic in them?
3. How do they compare to manuals of other ERP programs you may seen in
your
travels?
4. Have the Mapics manuals improved as they evolved thru the enhancements
of
the program over the years?
5. What other comments would you like to share with the Mapics ML about
your
experiences using the Mapics manuals?
I hope that many of the Mapics ML members will take the time from their
busy
schedules to share their experiences on this topic.
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