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I agree with most of what has been said, the manuals are large, cumbersome and hard to use for an inexperianced user - they are definitely not a substitute for proper user training and education - they really are reference manuals designed to guide a trained user - with the exception of Chapter 2 in each manual, which should be mandatory reading for anyone using that part of the system. On the Logic manuals - I also moaned and groaned when Mapics withdrew them, but having been forced to use the online Logic tools supplied in CAS, plus the ERL models for COM and IFM, I don't really miss them anymore and am now quite comfortable using these. Regards John Clayton Senior Consultant Powerlan Ltd Melbourne, Australia "Shaw, David" <dshaw@spartan.com>@midrange.com on 25/08/2000 06:15:46 Please respond to MAPICS-L@midrange.com Sent by: owner-mapics-l@midrange.com To: "'MAPICS-L@midrange.com'" <MAPICS-L@midrange.com> cc: Subject: RE: Your Views on the Mapics Manuals? I agree pretty much with all of Dale's points. The MAPICS manuals compare very well against other ERP system manuals that I've seen. This doesn't mean that the MAPICS manuals are great, just that there are a fair number of packages with really poor docs. (Heaven help anyone trying to make sense of the docs for INTEX, for example!) Dave Shaw MAPICS-L Moderator Spartan International, Inc. Spartanburg, SC -----Original Message----- From: Walker, Dale [mailto:DWalker@automaticproducts.com] Personally, I would like to see the old logic manuals return. They were great tools to use while determining where/when to insert mods etc. Overall, the manuals themselves aren't designed too bad. If someone sits down and tries to read them front-to-back they will go insane. IMO, chapter 2 is a good read because it highlights the features of the module. This material can be read in its entirety. The rest of the manual is really best used as a reference tool only. Accessing them via CD is handy. Dale Walker VP MIS Gross-Given Mfg. Co. / Automatic Products Intn'l -----Original Message----- From: aldg [mailto:aldg@mail.rvi.net] Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 11:08 AM To: MAPICS Mailing List Cc: Gershen, Al; Gershen, Al Subject: Your Views on the Mapics Manuals? Hi Mapics ML: I was at a meeting this morning at work and one of our bookkeepers who runs the A/P Mapics module made the comment, "I don't understand anything when I look in a Mapics manual." Can you give me your opinion of the Mapics manuals in terms of: 1. How do you rate their general readability and understandability? 2. Do they usually meet your needs when you research a topic in them? 3. How do they compare to manuals of other ERP programs you may seen in your travels? 4. Have the Mapics manuals improved as they evolved thru the enhancements of the program over the years? 5. What other comments would you like to share with the Mapics ML about your experiences using the Mapics manuals? I hope that many of the Mapics ML members will take the time from their busy schedules to share their experiences on this topic. +--- | This is the MAPICS Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MAPICS-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MAPICS-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MAPICS-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: dshaw@spartan.com +--- +--- | This is the MAPICS Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MAPICS-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MAPICS-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MAPICS-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: dshaw@spartan.com +---
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