RE: Web-Facing Tool -- JAVA400-L

Jim,

But the use of function keys in the first place is part of the 5250 mindset.
A good HTML design would have the need for keys. That, I think, is part of
the reason all the 5250 to HTML tools will eventually fail. The interactive
design and flow of a good HTML interface is different enough from a 5250 one
that we can't simply map from one to the other, no matter how much we wanted
to.

David,

If I understand you question, you're not talking about 5250 to HTML, but
HTML in general. If so, the _only_ place I'd even consider 5250 better than
HTML is pure heads-down data entry. I think the speed of 5250 with the
physical location of the field exit keys is better than HTML. But other than
that minor detail I think HTML is every bit as capable as 5250.

All,

As far as web-facing in general goes I have three major problems with it.
1) The interactive tax.
2) Only works with IE as browser according to an IBM presentation to LISUG a
couple of months ago. I believe this has to do with the fact that they used
DHTML to support some of the features and DHTML is only available on IE
3) Requires websphere. Currently WS is free, but my understanding from a
LISUG presentation last week is that version 4 and beyond aren't free at
all.

Can they fix these? sure. Will they...

-Walden

-Walden

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Langston [mailto:jlangston@celsinc.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 2:59 PM
To: java400-l@midrange.com
Subject: RE: Web-Facing Tool


Personally, I've found the function keys in HTML to be lacking.  I
hate having to click on a button on the bottom of the screen to
select F3, F12, F24, etc...

I had started using the HTML 5250 screen that OS/400 had, but stopped
because of the function key issue, and started using Mochasoft instead.

Regards,

Jim Langston

-----Original Message-----
From: java400-l-admin@midrange.com
[mailto:java400-l-admin@midrange.com]On Behalf Of David Morris
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 11:40 AM
To: java400-l@midrange.com; joepluta@PlutaBrothers.com
Subject: RE: Web-Facing Tool


Joe,

I know this is not an HTML forum, but I am curious. What did you find was
lacking and
what was better in HTML compared to 5250? I have found a lot of people do
not
recognize many of the capabilities of HTML and are writing it off in favor
of activeX
controls and applets. If you can assume a recent browser, the limitations
are pretty
minor. Except for function keys (unless someone is willing to share their
JavaScript
magic), I haven't found anything that we couldn't do, and in most cases do
better
than 5250. We do not have a tool but use an open source foundation from the
Apache
group. We also escape the 5250 and WebSphere tax.

David Morris


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